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gib 31st July 2017 01:23 AM

sold any yet

Majiffy 31st July 2017 01:25 AM

Not yet should have the patent paperwork filed in about a week.

Although we are in talks with the promoters of a local music festival.

Magicziggy 31st July 2017 01:45 AM

Prediction: This thread degenerates to this in 24 hours

Majiffy 31st July 2017 01:47 AM

tl;dr that shit I'll tell you hwat

Magicziggy 31st July 2017 01:54 AM

it's unreadable. that's the point

Jerome 31st July 2017 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gib (Post 406789)
jerome if the earth is flat then how do you explain the northern lights?

Electromagnetism...

Also, day light and sun light are not the same thing.

Magicziggy 31st July 2017 02:57 AM

:shockcorn:

Jerome 31st July 2017 02:57 AM

I have been all over the internets, no one anywhere can explain how this eclipse works with the current spinning globe model...

Jerome 31st July 2017 02:57 AM

MZ, how does the shadow travel from the west to the east?

:smug:

OmicronPersei8 31st July 2017 04:10 AM

Why would it go any other direction

Jerome 31st July 2017 04:24 AM

The current spinning globe model dictates it would go in the opposite direction.

The sun and moon rise in the east, and set in the west. This is because of the earth's rotation.

The eclipse shadow is moving in the wrong direction according to the model.

MondoVman 31st July 2017 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 406825)
The current spinning globe model dictates it would go in the opposite direction.

The sun and moon rise in the east, and set in the west. This is because of the earth's rotation.

The eclipse shadow is moving in the wrong direction according to the model.

I suspect you know you're wrong, Jerome.
Numerous articles on the internet explain why the moon's shadow travels west to east.

There is always the possibility that you can't comprehend the math and
science of our sun's eclipse.

Jerome 31st July 2017 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MondoVman (Post 406831)
Numerous articles on the internet explain why the moon's shadow travels west to east.

Yes, they have to speed up the moon to get it to work, they speed the moon to rotating around the earth in around 11 hours, which is not in compliance with the standard model which states the moon needs 27 days to travel around the earth.

This is the point, the model does not work with the observation.

The moon should be virtually unmoving, only 0.5 degrees of movement on the earth per hour, its the spin of the earth which should be the cause, but the earth spins the wrong way for the shadow to move west to east, so the only option is to speed up the moon.

Jerome 31st July 2017 06:22 AM

“It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.”


Richard Feynman

Magicziggy 31st July 2017 06:56 AM

even you can discern between the moons ~27 day cycle around the earth and it's nightly progression across the sky as the earth spins. surely

Timewave 31st July 2017 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicziggy (Post 406834)
even you can discern between the moons ~27 day cycle around the earth and it's nightly progression across the sky as the earth spins. surely

A flat Earth Moon wouldn't have phases?:horror::skype:

Magicziggy 31st July 2017 07:40 AM

daylight and sunlight
different things
still processing
:shockcorn:

Timewave 31st July 2017 07:47 AM

by the light of the day I'm not much of a man but by the light of the moon I'm one hell of a lover?

Timewave 31st July 2017 07:47 AM

:hmph:

Brother Daniel 31st July 2017 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 406825)
The current spinning globe model dictates it would go in the opposite direction.

Wrong.
Quote:

The sun and moon rise in the east, and set in the west. This is because of the earth's rotation.
Of course. But it does not follow that the moon's shadow would move that way.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 406832)
Yes, they have to speed up the moon to get it to work, they speed the moon to rotating around the earth in around 11 hours

No, "they" don't. This is one of the lies that your flat-earth sources tell you. You have to stop being so eager to eat up their shit.
Quote:

The moon should be virtually unmoving, only 0.5 degrees of movement on the earth per hour
With the earth-moon distance being about 60 times the radius of the earth, that 0.5 degrees per hour (of movement of the moon) makes the moon's shadow advance over 30 degrees per hour, which is more than enough to outpace the earth's rotation.

So you and your flat-earth buddies are simply wrong. Notice that this happens every single time you think you've "debunked" something. 100% failure rate.

Jerome 31st July 2017 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicziggy (Post 406834)
even you can discern between the moons ~27 day cycle around the earth and it's nightly progression across the sky as the earth spins. surely

Right, you are almost there.

The eclipse shadow's movement should be caused by the spin of the earth, but the earth spins the wrong way for the shadow to go west to east. So they are speeding up the moon beyond its 27 day cycle to make it work.

The moon can not both travel around the earth in 1/2 a day for the eclipse to work with the model, and 27 days for the rest of the time.

Jerome 31st July 2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Daniel (Post 406842)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 406832)
Yes, they have to speed up the moon to get it to work, they speed the moon to rotating around the earth in around 11 hours

No, "they" don't. This is one of the lies that your flat-earth sources tell you. You have to stop being so eager to eat up their shit.

No, I am getting that from NASA explanations and animations, plus every other 'reputable' source I can find.

Go ahead, you look up and link a source of your choice which explains the shadow's movement from west to east.

Jerome 31st July 2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Daniel (Post 406842)
With the earth-moon distance being about 60 times the radius of the earth, that 0.5 degrees per hour (of movement of the moon) makes the moon's shadow advance over 30 degrees per hour, which is more than enough to outpace the earth's rotation.

See, you are claiming the moon's shadow moves around the earth in 12 hours, half a day, faster than the earth spins...

OmicronPersei8 31st July 2017 03:22 PM

There's not going to a shadow on the Darkside of the earth now is there?

OmicronPersei8 31st July 2017 03:23 PM

I still don't understand why Jerome thinks the shadow shouldn't move west to east


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