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Jerome 31st July 2017 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmicronPersei8 (Post 406847)
I still don't understand why Jerome thinks the shadow shouldn't move west to east

... because its can't be modeled whilst keeping in the parameters of the current spinning globe theory.

:tiphat:

OmicronPersei8 31st July 2017 06:24 PM

that has not been demonstrated

Prince Humperdinck 31st July 2017 06:44 PM

Yes it has. Jerome checked every sphere earth site on the web and determined that all their models are wrong.

OmicronPersei8 31st July 2017 08:31 PM

oh, carry on then

Jerome 31st July 2017 09:41 PM

Choose one, link it, and I will explain how its not in agreement with the current model.

Magicziggy 31st July 2017 10:15 PM

Consider the position of moon as it progresses across sky. Now consider the position of the sun as it progresses across the sky.

The current model as you quaintly put it has the moon taking around 50 minutes longer to complete one cycle than the sun. Thus, the shadow of the moon, which is the projection of a line through sun and moon onto the earth, moves from west to east. It's not that hard if you think about it.

Cunt 31st July 2017 10:19 PM

Jerome, the last time you talked about this, you refused to go get a piece of the edge (the edge of the flat earth, hidden beyond Antarctica in your model).

If you continue to refuse to go get a piece, I have nothing left but to assume that you want everyone to go on believing the round earth theory.

Or you are simply a coward, afraid of the plain hard work of proving your little 'theory'.

Jerome 31st July 2017 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicziggy (Post 406857)
Consider the position of moon as it progresses across sky.

East to west.

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Now consider the position of the sun as it progresses across the sky.
East to west.

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The current model as you quaintly put it has the moon taking around 50 minutes longer to complete one cycle than the sun. Thus, the shadow of the moon, which is the projection of a line through sun and moon onto the earth, moves from west to east. It's not that hard if you think about it.
wat

One cycle of what?

Its the earth's spin which puts the sun and moon in alignment, not the movement of the sun and moon. Though your model with the observation does require you to speed up the moon to make it work, so...

Jerome 31st July 2017 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunt (Post 406858)
Or you are simply a coward, afraid of the plain hard work of proving your little 'theory'.

By that dumb logic you are a coward for not having gone to space and orbit the earth.

lol, are you in the fifth grade?

Magicziggy 31st July 2017 10:47 PM

An eclipse shadow is a projection of the direct line through sun and moon.
Relative to the spinning globe as the frame of reference, the sun is progressing faster across the sky than the moon. This is observable by you. The time between successive solar noons is around 24 hours. The moon takes 50 minutes longer.

Since when viewed from the surface of the globe, the sun moves faster across the sky than the moon, at times of eclipse the projected line through them will move west east.

Cunt 31st July 2017 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 406863)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunt (Post 406858)
Or you are simply a coward, afraid of the plain hard work of proving your little 'theory'.

By that dumb logic you are a coward for not having gone to space and orbit the earth.

lol, are you in the fifth grade?

Not quite, but thank you for addressing this.

I said 'little theory' to mock its importance (to you)

If you are as you say you are, this means there is a malevolent force deceiving nearly all the people you love or even care about.

I can acknowledge how important this must be to you. If it IS that important, go get a piece, and as to how much effort you spend getting it, if it were me, and it were this important, I would think it was well worth dedicating my whole career to getting a piece of that wall.

To me, nothing on the space station is that interesting. It's a remote work site a bit more interesting than any other, but nothing really controversial comes out of there for me.

Can you acknowledge how my perspective on the importance of this question is very different from yours?

And can you go get a fucking piece already?

Jerome 1st August 2017 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicziggy (Post 406865)
An eclipse shadow is a projection of the direct line through sun and moon.
Relative to the spinning globe as the frame of reference, the sun is progressing faster across the sky than the moon. This is observable by you. The time between successive solar noons is around 24 hours. The moon takes 50 minutes longer.

Since when viewed from the surface of the globe, the sun moves faster across the sky than the moon, at times of eclipse the projected line through them will move west east.

You are not addressing the shadow moving west to east, and by placing your perspective as a single location on the earth, you will be unable to.

Jerome 1st August 2017 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunt (Post 406866)

And can you go get a fucking piece already?

I have addressed this already, it is unknown if there is an edge, there most probably isn't, that is the propaganda you have been fed to make the idea silly.

You should care, because if we live on a flat earth, the only way that's possible is if there is an elite group of humans that for centuries have been in league with an angel to deceive as many individuals as possible about who they are and their purpose in life.

You enjoy the beauty of nature, its in your nature. No other animal 'enjoys' viewing nature. You are not an animal.

Magicziggy 1st August 2017 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 406868)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicziggy (Post 406865)
An eclipse shadow is a projection of the direct line through sun and moon.
Relative to the spinning globe as the frame of reference, the sun is progressing faster across the sky than the moon. This is observable by you. The time between successive solar noons is around 24 hours. The moon takes 50 minutes longer.

Since when viewed from the surface of the globe, the sun moves faster across the sky than the moon, at times of eclipse the projected line through them will move west east.

You are not addressing the shadow moving west to east, and by placing your perspective as a single location on the earth, you will be unable to.

If you accept that the sun's progress across the sky is faster than the moon's from any given location on earth, then you accept the shadow projected on earth moves west east at time of eclipse. It's that simple. If you reject the observable motion of the sun and moon across the sky then you are rejecting your own observations or choosing to cover your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and shout LA LA LA at the top of your voice.

Now the fun bit.

Explain the following using a flat earth model.
  • Total solar eclipse.
  • Annular solar eclipse
  • Lunar eclipse
  • High precision predictions of all eclipse paths locations and times

Prince Humperdinck 1st August 2017 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 406871)
You should care, because if we live on a flat earth, the only way that's possible is if there is an elite group of humans that for centuries have been in league with an angel to deceive as many individuals as possible about who they are and their purpose in life.

:christyes:

gib 1st August 2017 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicziggy (Post 406874)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome (Post 406868)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicziggy (Post 406865)
An eclipse shadow is a projection of the direct line through sun and moon.
Relative to the spinning globe as the frame of reference, the sun is progressing faster across the sky than the moon. This is observable by you. The time between successive solar noons is around 24 hours. The moon takes 50 minutes longer.

Since when viewed from the surface of the globe, the sun moves faster across the sky than the moon, at times of eclipse the projected line through them will move west east.

You are not addressing the shadow moving west to east, and by placing your perspective as a single location on the earth, you will be unable to.

If you accept that the sun's progress across the sky is faster than the moon's from any given location on earth, then you accept the shadow projected on earth moves west east at time of eclipse. It's that simple. If you reject the observable motion of the sun and moon across the sky then you are rejecting your own observations or choosing to cover your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and shout LA LA LA at the top of your voice.

Now the fun bit.

Explain the following using a flat earth model.
  • Total solar eclipse.
  • Annular solar eclipse
  • Lunar eclipse
  • High precision predictions of all eclipse paths locations and times

None of this whataboutery answers jerome's core question though does it?

Brother Daniel 1st August 2017 01:01 AM

MZ answered the core question in the first half of the very post you quoted, as well as in a few of his previous posts ITT. Why make an issue out of his having added some other stuff in his last post?

Timewave 1st August 2017 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmicronPersei8 (Post 406846)
There's not going to a shadow on the Darkside of the earth now is there?

What is on the other side of the disk?
Elephants? Turtles?

Timewave 1st August 2017 07:51 AM

Does the earth caste a shadow into the nether regions of hades?

Timewave 1st August 2017 07:51 AM

Or are we all in, like a snow flake glass dome that a god shakes every now and then?

Jerome 1st August 2017 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timewave (Post 406896)
What is on the other side of the disk?
Elephants? Turtles?

Wat's inside the earth, several big red circles?

What you don't understand is the model you believe in is a fantasy, not science. We have only drilled down 8 miles, yet if they draw you a picture with pretty red circles inside the earth, you believe the fantasy.

:tiphat:

Jerome 1st August 2017 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gib (Post 406876)

None of this whataboutery answers jerome's core question though does it?

Correct, then he attempts to misdirect by changing the subject.

Come on guys, link your best explanation for the shadow moving west to east and I will show you how it debunks your spinning globe model.

OmicronPersei8 1st August 2017 03:18 PM

still don't know why jerome thinks the shadow cant go west to east, thats the only direction it can go

nostrum 1st August 2017 03:23 PM

Is this thread going to kick off? Not too late to shove it back into dumbfuck thread

Zeluvia 1st August 2017 03:25 PM

I am a snowflake.


Well, I used to be, but I changed my avatar, and now I am an evil Duckess.


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