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Old 16th November 2017, 01:20 PM   #413959  /  #2951
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I have it on good authority those Canada geese take no prisoners so
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Old 16th November 2017, 02:30 PM   #413963  /  #2952
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They don't. They are fearless: cats, dogs, humans are treated alike, with contempt. They will cover any surface with giant soft green poops. My neighbour has a pair that use her lawn as a recreational area. Just two geese in a matter of a couple of days can turn a very large lawn into a hazard course, especially as the deposits are almost the same colour as the grass. The good news is that their feces aren't particularly acidic and don't burn vegetation like fresh chicken shit will.

I still like them. They're handsome birds, and a big flock of them talking all at once can be a lovely sound.



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Old 16th November 2017, 08:42 PM   #413967  /  #2953
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Old 17th November 2017, 01:27 AM   #413973  /  #2954
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North America, and especially Canada (we named our money after them!) has a meaner bird than Canada Geese though. The Common Loon. They will attack anything that comes near their nests, including hapless canoers. No violence in the following video, but loon calls like these are what I go to sleep to from May until September.



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Old 17th November 2017, 01:46 AM   #413976  /  #2955
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Canada geese are considered an invasive pest in Europe and New Zealand and on rare occasions have crossed the Tasman, prompting very rapid action to exterminate them.
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Old 17th November 2017, 02:01 AM   #413977  /  #2956
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Canadians are considered an invasive pest on New York roads and interstates
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Old 17th November 2017, 02:10 AM   #413978  /  #2957
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They're pretty tasty stuffed and roasted. All dark meat though.

I've never heard of anyone eating a loon.
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Old 17th November 2017, 02:11 AM   #413979  /  #2958
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Ack! I meant the geese are good roasted.
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Old 17th November 2017, 02:25 AM   #413982  /  #2959
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we know exactly what you meant
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Old 17th November 2017, 02:28 AM   #413984  /  #2960
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I am NOT in favour of Canadians being cannibalised while travelling in the US or anywhere ftm.
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Old 17th November 2017, 02:32 AM   #413986  /  #2961
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I went looking for a loon fact on the Wikipedia page, and clicked on the 'talk' page to see if what I thought was an error was going to be corrected. There I discovered the remnants of a two year battle between Brits and Americans as to whether the article should be headed Common Loon or Great Northern Diver. Americans going all "Think of the poor Canadians!"
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Old 17th November 2017, 02:32 AM   #413987  /  #2962
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also loons should be owned* but not eaten

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Old 17th November 2017, 02:36 AM   #413988  /  #2963
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Funny.
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Old 17th November 2017, 05:59 PM   #414045  /  #2964
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Homer loves sliding. He has a satin sheet that I put on the living room floor and he loves to run and jump on it and make it slide.

Meanwhile, in the wish I had a camera department, there was a great horned owl in the tree outside the back bedroom window the other night. Scared the shit out of Homer because it's Hoots were echoing in the room.

I think he was after our possums....
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Old 17th November 2017, 09:04 PM   #414055  /  #2965
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I am NOT in favour of Canadians being cannibalised while travelling in the US or anywhere ftm.
Not even the dark meat?
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Old 17th November 2017, 11:53 PM   #414082  /  #2966
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interesting story - feral goats now supporting 4 families owning helicopters, multiple dogs ... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-1...-goats/9149568



surprised that 2 thirds of the demand is from Latinos in the US; we usually hear it's from the Middle East
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Old 18th November 2017, 01:29 AM   #414083  /  #2967
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Wow. That's something I never would have thought someone could make a living doing. How many feral goats are living out there?
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Old 18th November 2017, 02:05 AM   #414085  /  #2968
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with 5m in NSW; I guess >10m

we have shitloads of feral things...there was a story about mustering buffalo, not too long ago
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Old 18th November 2017, 02:05 AM   #414086  /  #2969
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_...a#Distribution

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There were about 2.6 million feral goats in Australia in 1993 but this number has fluctuated widely.
https://www.environment.gov.au/syste...feral-goat.pdf

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Feral goats now occur across 28 per cent of Australia. They can be found in all states and territories and on some offshore islands, but are most common in the rocky or hilly semi-arid areas of western New South Wales, South Australia, Western Australia and Queensland. There are at least 2.6 million feral goats in Australia but numbers fluctuate enormously with drought, management programs and high fertility so it is very difficult to accurately assess numbers.
... iow who knows? but lots
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Old 18th November 2017, 02:06 AM   #414087  /  #2970
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^that vid said >5m in NSW alone
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Old 18th November 2017, 02:08 AM   #414088  /  #2971
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at the moment feral goats may actually be more profitable than sheep or cattle in outback New South Wales because they require next to no management, but that's not good for the environment because they are pretty destructive
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Old 18th November 2017, 02:10 AM   #414089  /  #2972
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^that vid said >5m in NSW alone
ah; didn't watch but could well be true.
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with 5m in NSW; I guess >10m

we have shitloads of feral things...there was a story about mustering buffalo, not too long ago
domestic herds gone feral - buffalo, goats, pigs, camels, ...
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Old 18th November 2017, 02:59 AM   #414091  /  #2974
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See now, animals that run feral here freeze and starve to death around January-February. It's mind-boggling to think of millions of feral domestic animals all over the country.

ETA: I suppose the ponies on Sable Island are an exception, but there aren't very many of them. It's a tough life.
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Old 18th November 2017, 07:39 AM   #414093  /  #2975
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We have a few million feral hogs, but I wondered why we don't have a feral goat problem. We have several species of goat and sheep that were released for hunting and have gone wild, but the populations don't seem to get out of hand. They are hunted regularly, but so are the hogs.

But it seems that the goats are mostly in areas that still have mountain lion populations, and the mountain lions like goats.

But the mountain lion and the red wolf are making a comeback, and the experts think it is because of the explosion of the feral hogs.



I think Climate Change should make us re-evaluate our stances on "invasive species".


https://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/a-n...otes-and-dogs/

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LIKE some people who might rather not admit it, wolves faced with a scarcity of potential sexual partners are not beneath lowering their standards.
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