What is privacy worth?

Cunt · 25th January 2012, 02:30 AM

I have been thinking about this for quite some time, and don't value it very highly at all. Not only is it practically impossible to protect one's privacy, it often ends up being a serious impediment to just about everything.

Does privacy or confidentiality do anything for you? Is there a real value that can be seen from it? If so, do you think it is enough value to justify how often it gets in the way?

Gonzo · 25th January 2012, 02:40 AM

I use to try to be private, but I found it to be... repressive. Over the last several months I have been trying to be more and more open... and it's just freeing. Freedom of expression creates opportunity... it helps you go after what you want. Putting yourself out there completely affirms your worth.

Though, not sure I understand exactly what you mean by 'privacy', but I mean in the broadest meaning of the term. There is certainly a great deal of value to having privacy. For example, your own personal living space or what have you... a place to be alone... personal property, etc.

Jerome · 25th January 2012, 02:40 AM

Privacy is needed for only those that have something to hide.

MSG · 25th January 2012, 02:41 AM

which is everyone

Jerome · 25th January 2012, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

... it helps you go after what you want.

short thinking, .. just be what you want

Gonzo · 25th January 2012, 02:44 AM

haha, no. stop talking.

Jerome · 25th January 2012, 02:45 AM

oblivion · 25th January 2012, 03:11 AM

Cool. I've been very curious about your corporation names and lines of business for quite a while.

Gonzo · 25th January 2012, 03:13 AM

borealis · 25th January 2012, 03:16 AM

nostrum · 25th January 2012, 03:18 AM

privacy is a level of comfort about one's place in the public world... it means different things to different people

A good e.g. is you not using your actual real name on this forum, and perhaps also having in your profile details that might make it easy to find out where you live.

maiforpeace · 25th January 2012, 03:23 AM

The only true privacy that exists is in your mind.

Otherwise, if you share with anyone you no longer have control. So, don't talk about it or share anything you want to keep private - seems simple enough to me.

Jerome · 25th January 2012, 03:25 AM

everyone has something that they do not want others to know

Floppit · 25th January 2012, 09:35 AM

I'm not big on privacy within my local community and friends. There's not much I mind people knowing and I accept (without a dickfit) that a certain amount of gossip is part and parcel involved groups.

That said there have been times when I've become far more guarded, especially where things are being written down and opinion runs neck and neck with 'fact'. I'm probably more wary of 'systems' and companies being able to access details than someone 2 doors down. Even so, being skint at least has with it the benefit of not being the most attractive of targets to begin with and, frankly, having less to lose.

Privacy's a daily issue in my job and at times a minefield, especially when families expect we should actively seek to involve them but the person does not want that - obviously the net result is a pissed off family! I would say I have a tangible and difficult ethical dilemma re privacy about once or twice a week, for something which looks so simple on the face of it, it frequently isn't.

divagreen · 25th January 2012, 12:33 PM

I like privacy on the interwebz in case I am in a situation where I piss someone off and they look up my real name on FB and send creepy messages to my daughter and my in laws.

Fuzzy · 25th January 2012, 02:26 PM

Privacy is important to me. I'm not really into urinating, masturbating, fucking, and singing along with my favourite tunes in the public eye. Even though everyone knows I do them, I still want privacy for those activities.

Additionally, I want privacy when having a heart to heart conversation with someone, or even just relaxing and making not quite socially appropriate jokes.

Even though I'm pretty open about things, I place an extremely high value on privacy in the small handful of areas that I perceive as mattering.

divagreen · 25th January 2012, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Fungi

Privacy is important to me. I'm not really into urinating, masturbating, fucking, and singing along with my favourite tunes in the public eye. Even though everyone knows I do them, I still want privacy for those activities.

Additionally, I want privacy when having a heart to heart conversation with someone, or even just relaxing and making not quite socially appropriate jokes.

Even though I'm pretty open about things, I place an extremely high value on privacy in the small handful of areas that I perceive as mattering.

Cunt · 25th January 2012, 02:49 PM

Floppit, I hear ya. I think you have summed up the problem (professional type) clearly. I have clients who don't want anyone to know something, then their 'caseworker' has a 'case conference' where they require the file to be available for everyone to peruse.

One of the ways I have mitigated that risk is to give a copy of the file to the client. This works twofold. One, I am careful to put nothing in the file that the client would not want in the file. Two is that they are encouraged to review their file often, remembering that it could be requested by some others.

It isn't a great answer, but better than what was presented to me by the old fuckwits who are my supervisors.

I noticed a client come in to see their file (they are allowed...it says so explicitly in our paperwork). The person they asked asked them why they wanted to see it, then made them wait, then when asked for a copy, resisted and said that it would cost to have it copied.

When I am asked, I hand over the paper folder, then ask or say anything I think I need to.

As far as my home privacy goes, I pull the curtain when I am fapping, but if someone peeked I would likely be a bit flattered, a bit embarrassed and let it go after. I do, however, rage when corporations track what kind of products I buy... (ineffectual rage, mainly...)

Cunt · 26th July 2019, 01:58 AM

Have your thoughts on privacy changed in the last few years?

I think more of us are willing to have our personal lives examined closely by google, but not by the creepy guy who was eyeing us at the bus stop yesterday.

Jerome · 29th July 2019, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunt

I think more of us are willing to have our personal lives examined closely by google, but not by the creepy guy who was eyeing us at the bus stop yesterday.

If the government demanded all the info google, amazon, and the like collect, people would be up in arms.

lol, fasism, corporate government partnership. The CIA has at least one public contract with Amazon..how many are unknown for all these various entities we provide all our details to...

Liberals don't know what fasism is, this is why they vote for it, seeming free or cheap stuff, which fasism provides.

Cunt · 30th July 2019, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome

If the government demanded all the info google, amazon, and the like collect, people would be up in arms.

They don't have to demand it. When they smash those companies for being too big (or whatever reason) they will seize the valuables, as is their fashion.

The valuables owned by most of the biggies, is the data they have been mining .

Majiffy · 2nd August 2019, 03:58 PM

I take a similar approach to online privacy as I do to physical privacy. Open up the shades and walk around the house naked. Ain't no one wanna see my fat ass, and maybe this will get you to stop looking

Cunt · 2nd August 2019, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majiffy

I take a similar approach to online privacy as I do to physical privacy. Open up the shades and walk around the house naked. Ain't no one wanna see my fat ass, and maybe this will get you to stop looking

Kind of like using an off-putting word as a username.

Majiffy.

OmicronPersei8 · 4th August 2019, 12:07 PM

anyone who posts here can't be too worried what with the unsecure login and all

Majiffy · 5th August 2019, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmicronPersei8

anyone who posts here can't be too worried what with the unsecure login and all

25th January 2012, 02:30 AM	#8203 / #1
Cunt Unregistered member Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Circum-polar region	What is privacy worth? I have been thinking about this for quite some time, and don't value it very highly at all. Not only is it practically impossible to protect one's privacy, it often ends up being a serious impediment to just about everything. Does privacy or confidentiality do anything for you? Is there a real value that can be seen from it? If so, do you think it is enough value to justify how often it gets in the way? __________________ --------- Shit, Piss, Cock, Cunt, Motherfucker, Cocksucker and Tits. -Lenny Bruce Caution Feminism IS the Patriarchy.

25th January 2012, 02:40 AM	#8209 / #2
Gonzo Some may never live, but the crazy never die. Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Savage American English	I use to try to be private, but I found it to be... repressive. Over the last several months I have been trying to be more and more open... and it's just freeing. Freedom of expression creates opportunity... it helps you go after what you want. Putting yourself out there completely affirms your worth. Though, not sure I understand exactly what you mean by 'privacy', but I mean in the broadest meaning of the term. There is certainly a great deal of value to having privacy. For example, your own personal living space or what have you... a place to be alone... personal property, etc. __________________ Safety. Obscurity. Just another freak, in the freak kingdom... “The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.” textpress/CFb Last edited by Gonzo; 25th January 2012 at 02:43 AM.

25th January 2012, 02:40 AM	#8210 / #3
Jerome Life is just a bowl of cherries Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living	Privacy is needed for only those that have something to hide. __________________ The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience. -Albert Camus

25th January 2012, 02:41 AM	#8212 / #4
MSG Ol' Zipperlaig Read my posts with the following stupid accent: N?yfb	which is everyone __________________ Over 19,000 more posts than Prince Humperdinck

25th January 2012, 02:44 AM	#8218 / #6
Gonzo Some may never live, but the crazy never die. Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Savage American English	haha, no. stop talking. __________________ Safety. Obscurity. Just another freak, in the freak kingdom... “The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.” textpress/CFb

25th January 2012, 02:45 AM	#8222 / #7
Jerome Life is just a bowl of cherries Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living	__________________ The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience. -Albert Camus

25th January 2012, 03:11 AM	#8275 / #8
oblivion Asylum Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Norton's Empire	Cool. I've been very curious about your corporation names and lines of business for quite a while.

25th January 2012, 03:13 AM	#8278 / #9
Gonzo Some may never live, but the crazy never die. Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Savage American English	__________________ Safety. Obscurity. Just another freak, in the freak kingdom... “The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.” textpress/CFb

25th January 2012, 03:16 AM	#8283 / #10
borealis poikilothermic Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Canada

25th January 2012, 03:18 AM	#8287 / #11
nostrum too boring to be considered weird	privacy is a level of comfort about one's place in the public world... it means different things to different people A good e.g. is you not using your actual real name on this forum, and perhaps also having in your profile details that might make it easy to find out where you live. __________________ I thought I was in a bad mood but it's been a few years so I think this is who I am now

25th January 2012, 03:23 AM	#8297 / #12
maiforpeace Member	The only true privacy that exists is in your mind. Otherwise, if you share with anyone you no longer have control. So, don't talk about it or share anything you want to keep private - seems simple enough to me.

25th January 2012, 03:25 AM	#8303 / #13
Jerome Life is just a bowl of cherries Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living	everyone has something that they do not want others to know __________________ The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience. -Albert Camus

25th January 2012, 09:35 AM	#8506 / #14
Floppit Senior Member	I'm not big on privacy within my local community and friends. There's not much I mind people knowing and I accept (without a dickfit) that a certain amount of gossip is part and parcel involved groups. That said there have been times when I've become far more guarded, especially where things are being written down and opinion runs neck and neck with 'fact'. I'm probably more wary of 'systems' and companies being able to access details than someone 2 doors down. Even so, being skint at least has with it the benefit of not being the most attractive of targets to begin with and, frankly, having less to lose. Privacy's a daily issue in my job and at times a minefield, especially when families expect we should actively seek to involve them but the person does not want that - obviously the net result is a pissed off family! I would say I have a tangible and difficult ethical dilemma re privacy about once or twice a week, for something which looks so simple on the face of it, it frequently isn't.

25th January 2012, 12:33 PM	#8568 / #15
divagreen Senior Member	I like privacy on the interwebz in case I am in a situation where I piss someone off and they look up my real name on FB and send creepy messages to my daughter and my in laws. __________________

25th January 2012, 02:26 PM	#8638 / #16
Fuzzy Senior Member Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Toronto	Privacy is important to me. I'm not really into urinating, masturbating, fucking, and singing along with my favourite tunes in the public eye. Even though everyone knows I do them, I still want privacy for those activities. Additionally, I want privacy when having a heart to heart conversation with someone, or even just relaxing and making not quite socially appropriate jokes. Even though I'm pretty open about things, I place an extremely high value on privacy in the small handful of areas that I perceive as mattering.

25th January 2012, 02:49 PM	#8652 / #18
Cunt Unregistered member Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Circum-polar region	Floppit, I hear ya. I think you have summed up the problem (professional type) clearly. I have clients who don't want anyone to know something, then their 'caseworker' has a 'case conference' where they require the file to be available for everyone to peruse. One of the ways I have mitigated that risk is to give a copy of the file to the client. This works twofold. One, I am careful to put nothing in the file that the client would not want in the file. Two is that they are encouraged to review their file often, remembering that it could be requested by some others. It isn't a great answer, but better than what was presented to me by the old fuckwits who are my supervisors. I noticed a client come in to see their file (they are allowed...it says so explicitly in our paperwork). The person they asked asked them why they wanted to see it, then made them wait, then when asked for a copy, resisted and said that it would cost to have it copied. When I am asked, I hand over the paper folder, then ask or say anything I think I need to. As far as my home privacy goes, I pull the curtain when I am fapping, but if someone peeked I would likely be a bit flattered, a bit embarrassed and let it go after. I do, however, rage when corporations track what kind of products I buy... (ineffectual rage, mainly...) __________________ --------- Shit, Piss, Cock, Cunt, Motherfucker, Cocksucker and Tits. -Lenny Bruce Caution Feminism IS the Patriarchy.

26th July 2019, 01:58 AM	#449660 / #19
Cunt Unregistered member Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Circum-polar region	Have your thoughts on privacy changed in the last few years? I think more of us are willing to have our personal lives examined closely by google, but not by the creepy guy who was eyeing us at the bus stop yesterday. __________________ --------- Shit, Piss, Cock, Cunt, Motherfucker, Cocksucker and Tits. -Lenny Bruce Caution Feminism IS the Patriarchy.

2nd August 2019, 03:58 PM	#449779 / #22
Majiffy I'll have you know I'm popular on many web forums Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Buffalo, NY	I take a similar approach to online privacy as I do to physical privacy. Open up the shades and walk around the house naked. Ain't no one wanna see my fat ass, and maybe this will get you to stop looking __________________ Herpy derpy jerfy! ʘᴥʘ pledged my daily allegiance to Satan and pear-shaped air hockey turntable earth Vivere diu rebellionus! Proud propagator of the "fire for warmth" myth

4th August 2019, 12:07 PM	#449826 / #24
OmicronPersei8 Declared candidate for Best Poster ~~2017~~ of the fuckin decade Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Gib's	anyone who posts here can't be too worried what with the unsecure login and all __________________ I am Lrrr, ruler of the planet OmicronPersei8. Jerome: My mistake.

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