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Old 22nd June 2017, 01:57 AM   #403679  /  #11776
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Old 22nd June 2017, 04:22 AM   #403681  /  #11777
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Old 22nd June 2017, 04:31 AM   #403682  /  #11778
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I think I like the last 'experiment' the best. Though the sphere is cool.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 04:54 AM   #403683  /  #11779
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They should do an experiment as to why the centrifugal force caused by the 1,000 mph earth's rotation has no effect whatsoever on the things on earth.

Basic physics debunks the spinning globe model.

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Old 22nd June 2017, 04:59 AM   #403684  /  #11780
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"gravity is a mistake"
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Old 22nd June 2017, 01:31 PM   #403700  /  #11781
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They should do an experiment as to why the centrifugal force caused by the 1,000 mph earth's rotation has no effect whatsoever on the things on earth.
It has exactly the effect that it should: It accounts for the oblateness of the earth (its main deviation from a sphere), which is measurable.

But you'd have to understand something of geometry in order to see how.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 06:03 PM   #403708  /  #11782
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lol, the force is powerful enough to effect millions upon millions of tons of rock, but not strong enough to effect a 200# human.

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Old 22nd June 2017, 07:02 PM   #403709  /  #11783
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(The verb you're looking for is "affect", not "effect".)

What makes you think it doesn't affect a human?

It makes you slightly lighter if you're at the equator than if you're at a pole. For a 200 pound human, the difference is about 11 ounces due directly to the centrifugal effect. Actually the difference is a bit bigger than that, nearly a pound, because the oblateness of the earth makes a further contribution.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 08:22 PM   #403712  /  #11784
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lol, the force is powerful enough to effect millions upon millions of tons of rock, but not strong enough to effect a 200# human.

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(The verb you're looking for is "affect", not "effect".)

What makes you think it doesn't affect a human?

It makes you slightly lighter if you're at the equator than if you're at a pole. For a 200 pound human, the difference is about 11 ounces due directly to the centrifugal effect. Actually the difference is a bit bigger than that, nearly a pound, because the oblateness of the earth makes a further contribution.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 08:27 PM   #403714  /  #11785
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Old 22nd June 2017, 08:53 PM   #403715  /  #11786
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Old 22nd June 2017, 09:46 PM   #403718  /  #11787
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It makes you slightly lighter if you're at the equator than if you're at a pole. For a 200 pound human, the difference is about 11 ounces due directly to the centrifugal effect. Actually the difference is a bit bigger than that, nearly a pound, because the oblateness of the earth makes a further contribution.
This is completely false unscientific clap-trap.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 09:48 PM   #403719  /  #11788
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Old 22nd June 2017, 09:52 PM   #403720  /  #11789
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Actually the difference is a bit bigger than that, nearly a pound, because the oblateness of the earth makes a further contribution.
Divided by the radius, dumbass, that would make it less in your fantasy world of spinning spheres.

Plus the radius of the spin being near zero at the pole, that would make gravity crush a person, as the same amount of gravity is impacting a person at the equator with enough force to counter the centrifugal force.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 09:53 PM   #403721  /  #11790
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You sure its clap trap and not humbuggery?
Six of one, a half dozen of another..

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Old 23rd June 2017, 01:47 AM   #403728  /  #11791
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This is completely false unscientific clap-trap.
It goes against the conclusion that you've decided in advance. That's why you don't like it.

Your conclusion-first thinking is leading you into trouble, as usual.
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Divided by the radius, dumbass, that would make it less in your fantasy world of spinning spheres.
What are you dividing by the radius? What would make what less than what?

Do you have the faintest idea of how to write a sentence?
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Plus the radius of the spin being near zero at the pole, that would make gravity crush a person, as the same amount of gravity is impacting a person at the equator with enough force to counter the centrifugal force.
How strong do you imagine the centrifugal force would be, on a 200 pound person located at the equator? Show your work.

Oh, right. You can't.

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Old 23rd June 2017, 02:34 AM   #403729  /  #11792
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It includes a "/gallery" level that others' visible imgur gifs don't,
but then again, it doesn't end with ".gif":
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Old 23rd June 2017, 03:10 AM   #403730  /  #11793
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Just a bunch of bloviating hand-waving, nothing of substance because you can not answer the pertinent question.



Plus the radius of the spin being near zero at the pole, that would make gravity crush a person, as the same amount of gravity is impacting a person at the equator with enough force to counter the centrifugal force.



show your work, lol, thats right, you cant, because the spinning sphere model is nonsense

Btw, when will you be collecting your $25,000 for evidence of the sphere earth?

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Old 23rd June 2017, 03:13 AM   #403731  /  #11794
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It goes against the conclusion that you've decided in advance.
I was educated in US State schools .. soo.. yea, nope, I came to this conclusion after examining the evidence, it is in opposition to the programing.

You in fact are the one that is stuck on the conclusion you were given without examining any evidence.

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Old 23rd June 2017, 03:14 AM   #403732  /  #11795
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BD, show your work and collect $25,000.
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Old 23rd June 2017, 03:22 AM   #403735  /  #11796
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I'm pretty sure he makes more than 25k using spherical physics
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Old 23rd June 2017, 02:30 PM   #403766  /  #11797
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Old 23rd June 2017, 03:12 PM   #403773  /  #11798
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nothing of substance
I have to be careful not to provide too much substance, because then you always accuse me of "double talk", no matter how much I try to dumb it down for you.
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because you can not answer the pertinent question.
You hadn't asked any questions up to this point. You seem to have difficulty keeping track of your own words. It's not at all clear what you imagine "the pertinent question" to be.
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Plus the radius of the spin being near zero at the pole, that would make gravity crush a person, as the same amount of gravity is impacting a person at the equator with enough force to counter the centrifugal force.
protip: Repeating something utterly moronic doesn't make it any less moronic. hth.
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show your work
Simple. The centripetal acceleration for something moving around in a circle is v2/r (where v is the speed and r is the radius of the circle).

I could derive this formula for you from scratch, but you wouldn't understand a word of it. So let's just chalk it up to "basic physics", since you like to pretend that you know some of that (lol).

So for v = 1040 miles per hour
and r = 3960 miles

you get a centripetal acceleration of about 0.11 ft/s2.

Compare that with an acceleration due to gravity of about 32 ft/s2.

So the amount of difference made by the centrifugal force, between the pole and the equator, is less than half of one percent of your weight.

For a weight of 200 pounds, you're dealing with 11 ounces of centrifugal force at the equator, effectively making you that much lighter.

Go to the pole, and you don't have those 11 ounces of relief.

11 ounces is not enough to "crush" you, dumbass.
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Btw, when will you be collecting your $25,000 for evidence of the sphere earth?
lol. Anyone can declare that they have a prize for evidence of something, and then simply declare all entries invalid.
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after examining the evidence
I have yet to see any evidence that you know how to examine any evidence about anything, or even that you have a clue what "evidence" is.
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Old 23rd June 2017, 05:49 PM   #403778  /  #11799
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Old 23rd June 2017, 06:25 PM   #403779  /  #11800
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http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Troll

See Part 3, number 1.
There's also

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Default to acting confused. You can ask questions about or explanations for the more mainstream view of something, while absolutely standing by your crazy opinion being the only one that makes sense. You can go on for ages about how wonderful your opinion is and express confusion as to why no one agrees with you. And if someone says there’s no way you’re serious, you’ve got to be a troll, just act confused as to why they would think that.
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