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Old 25th March 2017, 07:42 PM   #390517  /  #4301
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“We were a 10-year opposition party,” Mr. Ryan said late Friday. “Being against things was easy to do.”
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Old 27th March 2017, 01:08 AM   #390637  /  #4302
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So now they're just going to shrug and meh? After seven years of bitching, with majorities in the house and the senate AND having the presidency, the answer is THANKS OBAMA?

This is not acceptable. They say the ACA is going to collapse, so they'll just wait until that happens before taking action, even though they have no fucking clue how to fix it now even after seven years of promising to fix it? What makes anyone think they'll have the slightest idea about how to fix things then?

Slackers and shirkers. Everything is always somebody elses fault. I thought they were supposed to be big on responsibility.
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Old 27th March 2017, 01:10 AM   #390639  /  #4303
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This honestly should kill the GOP but unfortunately GOP voters are going to be happy continuing to blame Obama instead of holding their party officials accountable for their ridiculously terrible failure here.
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Old 27th March 2017, 05:05 AM   #390658  /  #4304
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Well Trump blamed the Freedom Caucus. The Tea Party should be upset.
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Old 27th March 2017, 08:13 AM   #390662  /  #4305
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What he didn't blame Dem obstructionism?


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Old 27th March 2017, 02:29 PM   #390693  /  #4306
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sorta. He whined that no dems would help. But he also said he's willing to work with dems to get some bipartisan solution. Not sure that'll actually come to pass (Hastert Rule), but whatever.
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Old 27th March 2017, 03:15 PM   #390710  /  #4307
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He blamed them first.
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“This year should be much worse for Obamacare,” Trump said, adding that when Obamacare explodes, it would be”very good” if the Democrats worked with the Republicans to get “a real health care bill.”

“I’d be totally open to it, and I think that’s going to happen,” Trump said.

The president said the losers are Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), “because now they own Obamacare.”

“They own it 100 percent own it, and this is not a Republican health care. This is not anything but a Democrat health care, and they have Obamacare for a little while longer until it ceases to exist, which it will sometime in the near future, and just remember, this is not our bill. This is their bill. When they all become civilized and get together and try to work out a great health care bill for the people of this country, we’re open to it. We’re totally open to it,” he said.

“We were very close. It was a very, very tight margin,” Trump said in explaining why there wasn’t enough Republican votes to pass the House repeal and replace bill. “We had no Democrat support. We had no votes from the Democrats. They weren’t going to give us a single vote, so it’s a very difficult thing to do.
wtf who is in power now and the bill was kept locked in a room in the basement no one even asked for any democrats to work on it

let's face it no one was reaching out for bipartisan action here

it was a republican failure, the republicans have all the power they need, the republicans own it

Since then he's blamed Ryan and the Freedom Caucus. Everybody but himself. Nobody in the Republican party wants to take the blame.
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Old 27th March 2017, 06:23 PM   #390752  /  #4308
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Of course not that means they'd have to admit they've been blowing hot steam out of their very smelly assholes for 8 years
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Old 27th March 2017, 10:58 PM   #390814  /  #4309
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Wasn't 'we just need to do something' how we got Obamacare and many, many other shit laws?
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Old 27th March 2017, 11:23 PM   #390822  /  #4310
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Wasn't 'we just need to do something' how we got Obamacare and many, many other shit laws?
Well it was a lot better before the GOP blocked it to hell and the Dems had to compromise

The GOP can't even get a bill to a vote
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Old 27th March 2017, 11:35 PM   #390826  /  #4311
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oh look at us, every july we'll celebrate how independent we are, yet we whine like fuck that we can't have proper healthcare like the real first world

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Old 27th March 2017, 11:37 PM   #390827  /  #4312
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I had a really good comeback all ready to go at you but then I forgot it so just pretend I burned you real bad
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Old 27th March 2017, 11:43 PM   #390830  /  #4313
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Old 27th March 2017, 11:59 PM   #390833  /  #4314
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oh look at us, every july we'll celebrate how independent we are, yet we whine like fuck that we can't have proper healthcare like the real first world
Dude, your system literally dehydrates people to death that are too expensive to care for. No thanks.
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Old 28th March 2017, 12:11 AM   #390836  /  #4315
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Old 28th March 2017, 12:13 AM   #390837  /  #4316
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oh look at us, every july we'll celebrate how independent we are, yet we whine like fuck that we can't have proper healthcare like the real first world
Dude, your system literally dehydrates people to death that are too expensive to care for. No thanks.
phew I was worried that you having nfi would sometimes stop your posts
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Old 28th March 2017, 12:25 AM   #390845  /  #4317
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No I got him didn't you read my sick burn?
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Old 28th March 2017, 12:38 AM   #390846  /  #4318
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The NHS is so bold, they know the people have been so indoctrinated that they will defend anything they do, that they actually put on the death certificates, either dehydration or malnutrition, for the people they kill because feeding and watering in hospital is too much of a cost.

In the US, if people were routinely coming out of the hospital dead of dehydration or malnutrition, at the least they would be sued out of business, and likely people would be going to jail for negligent homicide.
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Old 28th March 2017, 12:40 AM   #390847  /  #4319
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The NHS themselves report at least 42,000 people a year die in hospital of dehydration.
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In 2010, the Office of Inspector General for the Department of Health and Human Services said that bad hospital care contributed to the deaths of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year.

Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher — between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death.
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Old 28th March 2017, 01:27 AM   #390855  /  #4321
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Accounting for population, that is the equivalent of 210,000 per year dead because the hospital is not providing water.

The plethora of mistakes and negligence *contributing* to death being less than the number of people for which the *cause* of death is dehydration proves the point Majiffy.
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Well it's not exactly like the information is being as readily presented from the US as is from the NHS so I don't think that's a fair statement when you don't have all the facts.
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Old 28th March 2017, 02:00 AM   #390863  /  #4323
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Bull shit, we have a whole industry of lawyers that advertise looking to sue over negligence.

Its probably over reported here.
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Old 28th March 2017, 10:08 AM   #390962  /  #4325
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