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Old 12th August 2018, 02:08 PM   #435656  /  #276
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Yes he did. I couldn't decide between him and Slaan and Mp7 did great catching him.


But being the last scum is actually easier as I learned from Praying. You don't care who is lynched!





They are pretty heavy on associatives there. Who can't be scum with whom ect. I think that is just plain crazy talk : )
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Old 12th August 2018, 02:12 PM   #435657  /  #277
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Sorry about your death grit. I think it was inevitable since the dad lynch though.
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Old 12th August 2018, 02:24 PM   #435658  /  #278
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Just also want to say I admire your team mafia never bus honor code.



But I prefer Prayings kill everyone philosophy.
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Old 12th August 2018, 02:39 PM   #435659  /  #279
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They are pretty heavy on associatives there. Who can't be scum with whom ect. I think that is just plain crazy talk : )
Yeah MS was like that about 5 years ago, it's so easy to manipulate and I won almost every game I played as scum.
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Old 12th August 2018, 03:02 PM   #435663  /  #280
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You'd maybe laugh if I told you that just as in gm7 where MafiaFuggles got lynched with all mafia off-wagon, both the Buffy lynch and Dad lynch only happened (preventing a lynch of mafia) because of the lag in page load I always encounter with MU and the flaws with the Mafia Host modbot system. Otherwise, myc gets lynched D1 and Fable D3 or earlier. If town loses WC2 it's mostly due to their modbot.

And there have been other database errors at the buzzer. I even sent both Lissa and Mantichora a PM about it immediately after the Dad lynch but got no reply.

Yeah, one could say they are "known" issues that shouldn't affect gameplay as much as town allowing such close margins, but it does and has and MU simply doesn't really care enough about it all, mostly excussing that it doesn't affect judging who's "best" by their criteria, and the champs games aren't really about that anyway, it's just a way to get all mafia communities to their site.

I'm done trying to help make it better though, I think, as there seems no internal site motivation or stomach for it, as they mostly just ostracise those trying to influence change, and as it's their site to do with as they choose. It's a disappointing shame though.
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Old 12th August 2018, 03:26 PM   #435668  /  #281
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is it that they don't care or their crack team of coders is simply incompetent?
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Old 12th August 2018, 04:06 PM   #435671  /  #282
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is it that they don't care or their crack team of coders is simply incompetent?
No, they have an impressive arsenal. You would have absolutely luved the advantages we had at ChristianForums when Erwin owned the site though, with all his hacks. And maybe I don't really know, 'cause I'm not code proficient and don't know what all vBulletin is going through - I know they have a next generation V5 in beta or something and MU is somewhere between us and that.

MU has been pretty explicit through both posts and actions with where they are on this. If I've characterised it as simply a site recruitment troll, that's way too harsh - I think they're guiding intent is overall honourable or pure, but they're sure purposefully deceptive in their marketing and flagrantly agitant in being at once stubbornly resistant to well-intended "outside interference" while maintaining a facade of always sensitively improving amidst being absolutely thrilled with the status quo.
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Old 12th August 2018, 09:10 PM   #435675  /  #283
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I compiled a bunch of data supporting the numbers behind the complaints (cos the complaints are pretty valid!) but I can't decide whether I want to bother with it or not.

if you look at the numbers the champs games favor mu players. I mean it is right there. I don't think it is cos mu has better players (like they seem to think), what they have are players who are more familiar with the environment and site meta.

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Old 13th August 2018, 05:12 AM   #435676  /  #284
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You'd maybe laugh if I told you that just as in gm7 where MafiaFuggles got lynched with all mafia off-wagon, both the Buffy lynch and Dad lynch only happened (preventing a lynch of mafia) because of the lag in page load I always encounter with MU and the flaws with the Mafia Host modbot system. Otherwise, myc gets lynched D1 and Fable D3 or earlier. If town loses WC2 it's mostly due to their modbot.

And there have been other database errors at the buzzer. I even sent both Lissa and Mantichora a PM about it immediately after the Dad lynch but got no reply.

Yeah, one could say they are "known" issues that shouldn't affect gameplay as much as town allowing such close margins, but it does and has and MU simply doesn't really care enough about it all, mostly excussing that it doesn't affect judging who's "best" by their criteria, and the champs games aren't really about that anyway, it's just a way to get all mafia communities to their site.

I'm done trying to help make it better though, I think, as there seems no internal site motivation or stomach for it, as they mostly just ostracise those trying to influence change, and as it's their site to do with as they choose. It's a disappointing shame though.

Yeah I read the the accusations of last minute vote exploit from another game that Fable was in. If it starts becoming an exploit people use to win, I am sure they will do something about it.


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Old 16th August 2018, 07:36 PM   #435832  /  #285
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who are we cheering for in finals grit?
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Old 16th August 2018, 10:07 PM   #435838  /  #286
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That's tough. I know DS wants it bad for reasons. And Hanky did flavour for a wildcard & qualifier; Ara, Nego, & Amp for qualifiers, so... work. But Emproof and others do that regularly too - in other words, a lot of the slate is pretty comitted to MU. Boquise may be the most deserving overall over all games or historically or whatever. But, boy, that game by Five.
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Old Yesterday, 04:33 PM   #435869  /  #287
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I was leaning towards gh, miss nego or mplus7, but you know what? you are right about boquise.

boq was the only person who knew why we were both town in the recent anni. he was the only 1 who thought it through. I like him, he has a good heart. he is also a very sharp player.

BOQUISE FOR THE WIN!
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