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Old 16th January 2021, 02:34 AM   #465006  /  #1
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Left/right, and what does it mean to you?

There are people here who identify as left or right.

How do you identify, and what does that mean?

I identify as left.

Healthcare, education and welfare are human rights and should not be privatised. Climate change is real and need to be dealt with. People are more important than profits. Trade unions are a powerful and laudable force for workers. Racism, sexism, transphobia and homophobia need to be combatted at every turn. Abortion should be legal, accessible and safe.

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Old 16th January 2021, 04:10 AM   #465009  /  #2
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I'll bite, for some clarity, Aden.

I self-identify as ultra-right, though perhaps peculiarly for some consideration of that label.

Healthcare and education are civil rights too important to be relegated and regulated solely by governmental or bureaucratic controls. Climate change is real and both natural and effected by human influence and stewardship. Humans ought to be good stewards of our environment. Worker unions are essential when properly managed toward community benefit. There is only one race of humans. Recognition and appreciation of individual differences, including sexual, cultural, and religious ought to be civilly protected and championed within an agreed moral paradigm. Abortion is the taking of life. Life ought to be civilly protected and nurtured.
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Old 16th January 2021, 04:15 AM   #465010  /  #3
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Curious as to who you think should be responsible for health and education.

If you feel that individuals should be protected, I'm wondering how that fits with your views on abortion, given that women are humans. Are you trading a grown woman's right to bodily autonomy for a blastocyst, embryo or foetus?

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Old 16th January 2021, 04:46 AM   #465016  /  #4
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Each human life is sacred.
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Old 16th January 2021, 11:06 AM   #465020  /  #5
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Should a woman be enslaved though to the contents of her uterus?

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Old 16th January 2021, 11:09 AM   #465021  /  #6
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Abortion is the taking of life.
An embryo, at least in the early stages of gestation, is a human like an acorn is a tree, or an egg is a chicken.




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Old 16th January 2021, 11:51 PM   #465026  /  #7
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Every side thinks my argument for (against?) abortion is too vulgar. I think the subject is too vulgar.

My 'side' is a simple case to make. If someone disagrees, I step close behind them, grasp them firmly by the shoulders, and whisper it near their ear - "everyone has the right to evict anyone from their body, at any time, for any or no reason"

It just seems so natural when you look at it right.
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Old 16th January 2021, 11:59 PM   #465027  /  #8
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Old 17th January 2021, 12:02 AM   #465029  /  #9
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lol

Point made
Part of that point, is acknowledging the humanity of the developing fetus.

Like I said, vulgar. Some resist facing that part directly.
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Old 17th January 2021, 03:54 AM   #465030  /  #10
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The entire point of abortion is to divide people:




Woman's right to choice vs. Women oppressed


Murder of a child vs. Expulsion of inconvenient cells




Only dopes get caught in it.


Also consider abortion is easy peasy in the western world....so why is it still a political issue? Fear mongering plus division.


That is all, back to your regularly scheduled programing.
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Old 17th January 2021, 03:59 AM   #465031  /  #11
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Curious as to who you think should be responsible for health and education.

You are, you are as individual are.


Why do you want others to take care of you? I have never heard about you taking care of others.

You are selfish. You want a system in which you are cared for and you only have to contribute at your convenience.


Aden, how much extra tax do you give to government that you are not required to pay? If you truly believed your high horse, you, like Trump, would give all your salary to government outside of your own subsistence. You are a government worker, are you not?
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Old 17th January 2021, 04:07 AM   #465032  /  #12
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See, Hermit is caught, his identity is protecting the right to murder children in the womb. I bet back in the day he was able get get lots of sex and not have any responsibility for the lives he created.
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Old 26th January 2021, 01:37 AM   #465112  /  #13
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This is libertarianism in a nutshell.

They don't understand that we have gotten to this point in history by cooperating. They think these societal systems sprung into existence overnight. They look around at their small world and think, "I deserve this magical land I live in, and the fact that I was born into it is proof that I deserve it."

And thinking that, they then attempt to close the door to others. They decide that those not born into *their* circumstances are less deserving. After all, if they deserved it, they would have been born into it.

But those libertarians refuse to see that a slight accident a few generations back would have rendered their current situations non-existant. An ancestor not moving to the state they live in. An ancestor who didn't have a bit of luck in business, or was forced out by a bigger bastard.

We got to where we are by cooperating. We didn't cut the old from the tribe because we understood that they were people. We helped the sick. We educated everyone.

If people like Jerome had their way we'd have debtor's prisons and work houses.

But he tries to call me selfish.

I have paid more in tax than I have received. I know this because the Australian government helpfully sends a graph showing where our taxes are going every year. I have also done more for my country, and the international community than you.

I am definitely not the selfish one. I am the one who gives.
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Old 26th January 2021, 01:50 AM   #465113  /  #14
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I have paid more in tax than I have received. I know this because the Australian government helpfully sends a graph showing where our taxes are going every year. I have also done more for my country, and the international community than you.

I am definitely not the selfish one. I am the one who gives.
Paying taxes isn't giving, you greedy fuck. It's just paying your share.

Giving would be giving YOUR money or time.
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Old 26th January 2021, 01:59 AM   #465114  /  #15
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Funnily enough I do both, you gigantic douchecanoe.

This is what I'm saying about you knowing nothing about what I do, have done, or will do.

Honestly Cunt, just leave already. You're like a stale fart polluting the atmosphere here.
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Old 26th January 2021, 02:04 AM   #465115  /  #16
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Funnily enough I do both, you gigantic douchecanoe.

This is what I'm saying about you knowing nothing about what I do, have done, or will do.

Honestly Cunt, just leave already. You're like a stale fart polluting the atmosphere here.
Your the one who can't have real discussion. I don't feel upset by your ignorant ramblings, as no idea can threaten me.

Look how you wriggled bravely away from the last discussion. Cowardice looks like a good fit for someone with an avatar like yours.
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Old 26th January 2021, 02:07 AM   #465116  /  #17
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Dude, you glean shitnuggets from right wing sites and then try to present them as gold. I'm not going to lend credence to your outdated and discriminatory views by engaging with them. Go peddle your shit back in 1950.
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Old 26th January 2021, 02:11 AM   #465117  /  #18
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Dude, you glean shitnuggets from right wing sites and then try to present them as gold. I'm not going to lend credence to your outdated and discriminatory views by engaging with them. Go peddle your shit back in 1950.
The last ideas which you think come from 'right wing sites', are from scientists who self-identify as far-left.

You at your best talking about your phone.
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Old 26th January 2021, 02:25 AM   #465118  /  #19
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Probs not.

Trans people exist, as much as they terrify you. A small number of people shouting into the void can't change that. Now, go lie back in your Emotional Support Fort and pretend that the world is as you want it.
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Probs not.

Trans people exist, as much as they terrify you. A small number of people shouting into the void can't change that. Now, go lie back in your Emotional Support Fort and pretend that the world is as you want it.
They don't scare me.

You do seem frightened to listen to biologists about it though. Not surprising, since you are diversiphobic.
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Old 26th January 2021, 02:34 AM   #465120  /  #21
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What's hilarious is that you don't know what those two self-identified far-left lifelong scienctists and academics said, you just know it must be wrong because...?
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Old 26th January 2021, 02:42 AM   #465122  /  #23
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I'm not going to lend credence to your outdated and discriminatory views by engaging with them. Go peddle your shit back in 1950.
Yes, but I was referring to views of a modern pair of academics.

You fear engaging with any of the discussion. Cowardice. Good to see your shit ideas make you scurry off with your tail between your legs.
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I'm not going to lend credence to your outdated and discriminatory views by engaging with them. Go peddle your shit back in 1950.
Yes, scurry away to your safe space. Modern ideas, especially if at all challenging, SHOULD frighten you. Your ideas are too simple to withstand even the slightest scrutiny.

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In this episode, we begin by discussing some of the Biden administration?s early policy decisions: shutting down DAPL, rejoining the Paris Agreement on Climate, and affirming the rights of trans people (and in so doing putting the rights of women at risk).
I guess intersecting rights and having women discuss them is probably a bit too much for you, but if anyone else wants to hear what you are so lathered up about...
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