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Old 14th August 2012, 07:22 PM   #58487  /  #26
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Old 6th September 2012, 02:24 PM   #63369  /  #27
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Old 8th September 2012, 05:47 AM   #63679  /  #28
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If adults want to be married, let them be married. It has nothing to do with anyone who's not a wedding guest. It's a public vow and ceremony that's important to some people. Marriage is also a convenient catch all set of rights and responsibilities. This is where the government certificate comes in. It effectively makes the partner the closest family member. If you want the ceremony without the certificate you can do so or the reverse. Most choose to do both at once.

I have objections to common-law regulations. They force marriage-like bonds on people based on living arrangements that may have nothing to do with a desire to be joined in this way.

In any case basing these regulations on gender is discriminatory.
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Old 8th September 2012, 06:54 AM   #63685  /  #29
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They force marriage-like bonds on people based on living arrangements
This is Love, Canadian-style, yes?
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Old 8th September 2012, 04:10 PM   #63707  /  #30
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Old 9th September 2012, 01:15 AM   #63754  /  #31
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Old 9th September 2012, 03:04 AM   #63771  /  #32
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They force marriage-like bonds on people based on living arrangements
This is Love, Canadian-style, yes?
actually I thought the automatic equal to marriage after so many years of common law was an American thing.
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Old 9th September 2012, 03:05 AM   #63772  /  #33
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Old 9th September 2012, 03:10 AM   #63773  /  #34
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They force marriage-like bonds on people based on living arrangements
This is Love, Canadian-style, yes?
actually I thought the automatic equal to marriage after so many years of common law was an American thing.
The skinny on common law marriage in Canada:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage#Canada

Differs some by province.

I'm in favour myself, having been an adult before common law marriage was recognized and having seen the kind of shit that people did to each other under the guise of 'not being really married' when long term relationships fell apart.

ETA: Don't want to be equal partners with someone? Don't cohabit with them, then.
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Old 9th September 2012, 03:38 AM   #63781  /  #35
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Did anyone answer why government taxes people differently based upon who they fuck how?
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Old 9th September 2012, 04:15 AM   #63788  /  #36
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Social coercion.
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Old 9th September 2012, 07:07 AM   #63798  /  #37
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They force marriage-like bonds on people based on living arrangements
This is Love, Canadian-style, yes?
actually I thought the automatic equal to marriage after so many years of common law was an American thing.
Apparently only ten U.S. states recognize/permit common law marriage. Also, the couple must actually present themselves to neighbors and the community as being married. Whereas in Canada, couples of any age living an experimental arrangement are permitted no more than 12 months cohabitation.
YMMV (how fitting that)
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Old 9th September 2012, 07:15 AM   #63800  /  #38
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experimental arrangement
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Old 9th September 2012, 07:35 AM   #63802  /  #39
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Lol. Wrong again, Jerome.

Americans in presumably 40 of 50 states permit themselves all the experimental coupled cohabitation they like without the burden of time-triggered common law marriage.
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Old 9th September 2012, 08:07 AM   #63805  /  #40
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Well you know man, if you are going to let one section of society do something then it is only right and proper that you extend the privilege to every other section too so yes I am in favour of gay marriage. Hopefully at some unforseen point in the future it will not actually be referred to as gay marriage but just marriage and not gay divorce but just divorce. Keep it as simple as possible.
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Old 9th September 2012, 08:18 AM   #63806  /  #41
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Well you know man, if you are going to let one section of society do something then it is only right and proper that you extend the privilege to every other section too so yes I am in favour of gay marriage. Hopefully at some unforseen point in the future it will not actually be referred to as gay marriage but just marriage and not gay divorce but just divorce. Keep it as simple as possible.
You are down with having multiple marriage partners according to the tax laws?
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Old 9th September 2012, 09:14 AM   #63808  /  #42
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Well you know man, if you are going to let one section of society do something then it is only right and proper that you extend the privilege to every other section too so yes I am in favour of gay marriage. Hopefully at some unforseen point in the future it will not actually be referred to as gay marriage but just marriage and not gay divorce but just divorce. Keep it as simple as possible.
You are down with having multiple marriage partners according to the tax laws?
If three or more people want to get hitched to each other and it is legal , then I have zero problem with it whatever the tax laws may or may not be. I am not sure which jurisdiction you are referencing here as my understanding is that most Western nations do not have this on the statute but even so I am in favour of it anyway. I believe that one should have the freedom to do whatever one wishes as long as it does not impinge on the freedom of others. Polygamy would come under such a definition.
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Old 10th September 2012, 06:17 AM   #63847  /  #43
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Did anyone answer why government taxes people differently based upon who they fuck how?

Different groups complain differently.
And some are more effective than others.
Some fuckers simply know how to get what they want.
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Old 10th September 2012, 10:53 AM   #63852  /  #44
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Did anyone answer why government taxes people differently based upon who they fuck how?
You mean apart from the fact that de facto unions are time-based, while marriages are not? And that assumes the particular jurisdiction even recognises de facto relationships for the purposes of tax.
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Old 10th September 2012, 01:09 PM   #63853  /  #45
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Marriages last indefinitely?
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Old 10th September 2012, 06:35 PM   #63872  /  #46
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They force marriage-like bonds on people based on living arrangements
This is Love, Canadian-style, yes?
actually I thought the automatic equal to marriage after so many years of common law was an American thing.
Apparently only ten U.S. states recognize/permit common law marriage. Also, the couple must actually present themselves to neighbors and the community as being married. Whereas in Canada, couples of any age living an experimental arrangement are permitted no more than 12 months cohabitation.
YMMV (how fitting that)
Yeah, this. Common Law marriage is pretty much an anachronism in the U.S. these days.
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Old 11th September 2012, 11:40 AM   #63913  /  #47
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Marriages last indefinitely?
*sigh*

Seems I over-estimated you.

De Facto Unions are only recognised after a certain period of time has passed.

Marriages are recognised the moment you sign certain documents.
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Old 11th September 2012, 01:46 PM   #63918  /  #48
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I think bobby was being facetious grumps.
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Old 11th September 2012, 04:02 PM   #63927  /  #49
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Of course I was, but I also honestly didn't understand what Grumps was saying.

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De Facto Unions are only recognised after a certain period of time has passed.
You're using the term "De Facto Union" where other people have used common law marriage. I was confused between this and Civil Union as previously used in the thread.
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Old 12th October 2012, 12:12 PM   #68373  /  #50
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