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Old 22nd September 2018, 11:08 PM   #437789  /  #76
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Old 22nd September 2018, 11:34 PM   #437790  /  #77
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Also missing is my post about why SMF 2.0.15 hasn't impressed so far. Basically, it's not getting the kind of support you'd expect for the production version of a popular forum app. The developers, geeks and webspinners (my tribe) seem burnt out, irritable, and unhelpful about questions. Many of their best (and most interesting to me) add-ons haven't been updated in several years, and there's no info available about whether they've been tested with the 2.0.15 version of the forum.

So, I want to try out their beta version. It's been in beta a long time, and the most recent beta patch is 6 months old, but it still where most of the development activity is happening, and I've heard pretty good stuff about it.

Interacting with the SMF crew answers any lingering questions I might have about why a bunch of developers fucked off and designed/coded Elkarte.

I also want to install the new version of phpbb and see how that works.

When the site came back up but MR was still down, I freaked right out, thinking something they did to get the servers back up might have permanently broken MR. But, the database is not the part of this instance that I expect to die first by a long shot.
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Old 22nd September 2018, 11:54 PM   #437792  /  #78
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If those are the only ill-effects from Hobbit Day and the beginning of Oktoberfest 'till we'll count half of us half as blessed as we would like and less than half of ourselves half as blessed as we deserve.
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Old 22nd September 2018, 11:55 PM   #437793  /  #79
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Old 23rd September 2018, 12:15 AM   #437794  /  #80
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I have thousands of emails about the vbulletin crash. Was there a how-do-you-do?
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Old 23rd September 2018, 12:17 AM   #437795  /  #81
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It looks like we did lose yesterday's posts.

My ode to moong dahl among them
Are you fucking kidding me. I spent hours on yesterday's post on how much you all mean to me and it's gone!
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Old 23rd September 2018, 12:30 AM   #437796  /  #82
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I have thousands of emails about the vbulletin crash. Was there a how-do-you-do?
All their servers crashed in a perfect storm. They had one uncorrupted backup on relatively slow disks, so it's taking a while to get things back up. MR's database was corrupted when the site came back up, hence the thousands and thousands of emails. I think a lot of the things they tried to restore things resulted in most of those emails. Much as we as a community obsess over the refresh button when the site goes down, that was way beyond our ability to generate!
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Old 23rd September 2018, 12:37 AM   #437797  /  #83
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Much as we as a community obsess over the refresh button when the site goes down
I was trying to incorporate OP8's much you all mean to me thread into a reaffirmation of life prayer.
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Old 23rd September 2018, 12:39 AM   #437798  /  #84
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Old 23rd September 2018, 12:44 AM   #437799  /  #85
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I have thousands of emails about the vbulletin crash. Was there a how-do-you-do?
All their servers crashed in a perfect storm. They had one uncorrupted backup on relatively slow disks, so it's taking a while to get things back up. MR's database was corrupted when the site came back up, hence the thousands and thousands of emails. I think a lot of the things they tried to restore things resulted in most of those emails. Much as we as a community obsess over the refresh button when the site goes down, that was way beyond our ability to generate!
5498 emails. That's a cyclone.

I feel like we're scientists in a control room watching the end of the world unfolding on screens. And all we can do is hope the spaceship is ready for us all to blast off on before the world implodes.
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:20 AM   #437800  /  #86
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why didn't I get any emails?
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:20 AM   #437801  /  #87
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what did you do
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:22 AM   #437802  /  #88
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5498 emails...

Did they have any content? Signatures?

Lol did nostrum get buried under that many messages too? And charlou, too no doubt!
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:23 AM   #437803  /  #89
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what did you do
He posted a song and then I think a bunch of Estonian assassins came for mindromp. Musta been some wicked lyrics.
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:24 AM   #437804  /  #90
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what did you do
In my defence, I thought only ob received the emails
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:30 AM   #437806  /  #91
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5498 emails...

Did they have any content? Signatures?

Lol did nostrum get buried under that many messages too? And charlou, too no doubt!
They were emails from the server containing the database error info. And the database error was that the admin server account didn't have permission to ask the database admin account to do squat.
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:32 AM   #437808  /  #92
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Maybe this outtage email thing will rouse our dormant members so they are made aware of the upcoming migration
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:48 AM   #437810  /  #93
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^ that's my fear, too
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Old 23rd September 2018, 01:49 AM   #437811  /  #94
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OK, so I tried to recreate the Known Aliases thread from memory. I... I mighta jumbled it up a bit. Let me know if I may have misremembered some nicknames.
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Old 23rd September 2018, 02:18 AM   #437813  /  #95
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So ob, given your misgivings with smf, and experience with Elkarte at TR, you wouldn't consider it as an alternative? (That was one of my lost posts.)
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Old 23rd September 2018, 02:30 AM   #437814  /  #96
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Raiders of the Lost Ark on Mndromp?
I was singing and dancing like no one was watching, and no one was?

Was it a christian interventionist thing spruce?
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Old 23rd September 2018, 02:40 AM   #437815  /  #97
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That's the word in the Abbey.
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Old 23rd September 2018, 02:48 AM   #437817  /  #98
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7000 now. This is awesome
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Old 23rd September 2018, 03:16 AM   #437818  /  #99
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7000 now. This is awesome
If it was snail mail you could build a recycled house out of the letters.
Just glue them all together.
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Old 23rd September 2018, 03:31 AM   #437819  /  #100
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So ob, given your misgivings with smf, and experience with Elkarte at TR, you wouldn't consider it as an alternative? (That was one of my lost posts.)
I lost my reply to this question, too! There are three factors that weigh against Elkarte in my mind.

- it's a terrible platform for mafia games. It's the only forum software I know of that has no functionality to iso someone's posts in a thread, for instance.
- the search function is terrible.
- Several MR peeps hate the look and feel.

I'd consider it as an alternative if nothing else could come up to even that level in terms of matching the functionality that most of us use and love.

From a support standpoint, though, I love Elkarte, and the developers are super friendly and helpful. One of the developers put together the twitter mod I installed at TR at my request, even though there didn't seem to be a lot of other forum-owner-types who also wanted it.
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