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Old 13th December 2015, 01:42 AM   #306053  /  #251
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http://www.theguardian.com/australia...riage-equality

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Australia is the land of the warriors’ last resort.

But the troops are deserting them. The faithful are no longer as willing as they were to obey the ancient Christian sex rules. They have shrugged off the power of their bishops and preachers.

Just like the rest of us they live together before they marry. They use the pill. They have abortions. They divorce. They remarry without annulment. They aren’t much troubled by their homosexual brothers and children. And most back equal marriage.

When Crosby Textor asked Australians in 2014 if they supported or opposed allowing same-sex couples to marry, they found support high across the faiths as well as Australia:

Total support: 72%.

Catholics: 67%.

Christians generally: 59%.

Anglican and Uniting: 57%.
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Old 20th January 2016, 03:51 AM   #309697  /  #252
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Australia* refuses to recognise marriage of British man's husband who died on honeymoon


*South Australia
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Old 20th January 2016, 03:52 AM   #309698  /  #253
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Old 20th January 2016, 05:39 AM   #309704  /  #254
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Very sad for his husband to die on the honeymoon
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Old 20th January 2016, 08:57 AM   #309712  /  #255
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Let's hope he was in a position that he would have been happy to die in.
As in, at least he died happy!.

No joke for his spouse and no disrespect meant.
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Old 20th January 2016, 09:05 AM   #309713  /  #256
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Old 20th January 2016, 09:42 AM   #309720  /  #257
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better news... SA Premier to apologise after David Bulmer-Rizzi's same-sex marriage not recognised on death certificate
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-2...ficate/7102164

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Premier Jay Weatherill says he will apologise to the family of a British man after authorities refused to recognise his same-sex marriage on his death certificate.

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"We introduced an initial Bill to the Parliament last year to begin the removal of discrimination from South Australian legislation," he said.
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Old 29th November 2017, 03:38 AM   #414706  /  #258
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Old 29th November 2017, 03:46 AM   #414707  /  #259
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For those wondering who voted no:

Concetta Fierravanti-Wells

Eric Abetz

Chris Ketter

Fraser Anning

Cory Bernardi

John Williams

Helen Polley

Lucy Gichuhu

Brian Burston

Matt Canavan

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Old 29th November 2017, 03:46 AM   #414708  /  #260
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'Grats, Aussies. About time.
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Old 29th November 2017, 03:49 AM   #414709  /  #261
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I see there is a lot of intolerance that is happening in this chamber, the whole fact is, it is not taking into consideration those people who are marriage celebrants, who for whatever reason, whether it be religious or non-religious reasons, because they don’t wish to marry a couple, are going to be left themselves wide open, because you may be sued or for litigation.
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Old 29th November 2017, 03:49 AM   #414710  /  #262
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'Grats, Aussies. About time.
STill has to pass the lower house next week. But yeah, a formality.
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Old 29th November 2017, 04:03 AM   #414711  /  #263
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I see there is a lot of intolerance that is happening in this chamber, the whole fact is, it is not taking into consideration those people who are marriage celebrants, who for whatever reason, whether it be religious or non-religious reasons, because they dont wish to marry a couple, are going to be left themselves wide open, because you may be sued or for litigation.
The thing re celebrants is probably as dumb an argument as it was here - priests, clerics, ministers, preachers etc. have never had to marry anyone they didn't want to marry. They have never had to marry couples they thought unsuitable for any number of reasons, including such things as not members of that church or Catholic and divorced or not able to attend counselling sessions etc.

There has never been a case in Canada of a gay couple 'suing' or a cleric being 'forced' to marry anyone.

Likely helps that UCOC is the largest Protestant denom. here and they were marrying gay couples before it was even possible to do so legally, and have gay ministers as well, should you be so picky.
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Old 29th November 2017, 04:07 AM   #414712  /  #264
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Throw in Victoria now legalizing Voluntary assisted dying and it's a very big red letter day.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...nt-passes-bill
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Old 29th November 2017, 04:09 AM   #414714  /  #265
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churches / religious institutions will be exempt, civil marriage celebrants won't

and despite all the ridiculous scaremongering that went on, neither will the florists or wedding cake makers be able to refuse service on the basis of opposition to gay marriage
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Old 7th December 2017, 08:41 AM   #415129  /  #266
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-0...atives/9235560

the gallery broke into a spontaneous chorus of "We Are Australian"
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Old 7th December 2017, 04:08 PM   #415140  /  #267
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Old 6th May 2018, 08:58 PM   #428396  /  #268
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I myself wouldn't take part in gay marriage. I would feel like my cat when I playfully make him walk on two legs. He can stand with aid, but the moment I let him go, he drops down to all fours. By themselves, cats can't be bipedal because it's unnatural for them, and that's how I feel about gay marriage.
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Old 6th May 2018, 10:15 PM   #428400  /  #269
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I don't think cats should have to walk down the aisle on their back legs. And that's why I won't have anything to do with cat marriage.
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Old 7th May 2018, 12:02 AM   #428403  /  #270
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churches / religious institutions will be exempt, civil marriage celebrants won't

and despite all the ridiculous scaremongering that went on, neither will the florists or wedding cake makers be able to refuse service on the basis of opposition to gay marriage
Oh yes they will.
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Old 7th May 2018, 12:30 AM   #428404  /  #271
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Yeah I think SCOTUS backed the cake-makers on a recent court case in our own little plot of fucked-up in the world.
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:10 AM   #428406  /  #272
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:49 AM   #428412  /  #273
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yeah they did Jiffy, and I wonder if they will uphold the Tennessee law allowing mental health professionals to deny care based on religious reasons. I can't remember offhand which state it was, but one of them is also discussing expanding that idea to include physical health professionals as well as mental health professionals.

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Old 7th May 2018, 01:54 AM   #428413  /  #274
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tristan no one HAS to get gay married, it is about having the same rights as heterosexual couples to get married and have all the same benefits. It is about not being fired form your job because of your sexual orientation, it is about not being evicted or refused a place to live because of your sexual orientation. It is about knowing you can get medical care, have a fire put out, and many other things people take for granted, without being denied because of sexual orientation. (Yes there are states in the South and some in the Midwest who are working on laws that would affect even care providers and others). It is about being able to help so many kids get adopted who are left in the foster care system because so many adoption agencies refuse to adopt out to gay couples.
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Old 7th May 2018, 02:06 AM   #428414  /  #275
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I think you're missing the point. This is about Tristan's constitutional right to abuse his cat.
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