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Old 19th January 2012, 08:38 PM   #4616  /  #1
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Mafia Lingo

Some terminology is pretty much universal to Mafia games, and some is unique to specific mafia communities. The lingo at MindRomp is (at least initially) a meld of universal terms and terms that are common on a few other sites. I thought it might be helpful to start a list of terms. Feel free to add to this, and feel free to ask about terms you see but don't understand.

I'll start with a few that I've seen so far in the current game.

Meta, meta-game, meta-gaming

Meta or meta-game refers to players' game history - how they play when they are town, scum, special, etc. Putting a vote on someone for "meta reasons" indicates the voter is basing their vote on historical behaviors. This is in contrast to objective tells. meta-gaming or "playing for the meta" means that the player is (or is thought to be) playing a role a certain way for their future reputation. Playing an indie role in an uber-protown manner would be an example of meta-gaming.

objective tells, scum tells

Objective [scum] tells are behaviors that look scummy on the face of it, no matter who the player, and no matter how they behave historically.

Sticky Vote

I think I coined this one. It's used to describe a vote that seems unusually set in stone, either for the situation or in terms of the player's usual town behavior (see meta)

trolley-track

This term was brought to mafia by bilirubin/jasona. The term originated in ice hockey.

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Trolley tracks Coined by Don Cherry, the trolley tracks are two 'lanes' in the neutral zone, located midway between the center face-off dot and the boards, spanning from blue-line to blue-line. They are named this due to the common occurrence of a forward receiving a pass from his defense-man during breakout, and then getting completely demolished by an opposing player, usually because they are still looking back at where the pass had originated. This pass is often referred to as a suicide pass. It can be blamed on either the defense-man for setting up such an obvious pass, or the player receiving the pass for not keeping their head up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossar...e_hockey_terms

In mafia, the term is used to describe a town player who thinks another player is scum, and is focused to the exclusion of any game info that indicates they are wrong or that someone else is a better target for lynch or night action.

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Old 20th January 2012, 03:41 AM   #4922  /  #2
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I'd add also that meta has also become used to describe using information from outside of game thread gameplay. Eg someone who is added to the game after the roles have initially gone out might be assumed to be vanilla town (as the game will be unbalanced otherwise), or the online/offline activity of a player, or a comment outside of the game thread.
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Old 20th January 2012, 03:41 AM   #4923  /  #3
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WIFOM needs to be defined.. but I'm crap at describing it.
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Old 20th January 2012, 03:43 AM   #4925  /  #4
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I should have mentioned that I've noticed an evolving interest in collecting and analyzing GM meta, too.
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Old 20th January 2012, 03:44 AM   #4926  /  #5
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I should have mentioned that I've noticed an evolving interest in collecting and analyzing GM meta, too.
I wonder why
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Old 20th January 2012, 03:49 AM   #4930  /  #6
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http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=WIFOM.
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Old 20th January 2012, 03:49 AM   #4932  /  #7
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WIFOM stands for "Wine in Front of Me", and it harks from The Princess Bride.

Strictly speaking, it means following tenuous chains of "what is scum trying to make me think/do?"

Player X is the scum night kill. Player X was after players Y and Z the day before. Did scum kill Player X because Player Y or Z are scum? Or did they kill Player X in order to cast suspicion on Player Y or Z? Oh, but they'd know I'd think that it's because Player X was right, so Player Y and Z must be town. It's an endless hall of mirrors.

It appears to me that the definition has grown more diffuse over time, and gets applied to any down-the-rabbit-hole logic chains players get stuck in. You'll see references to "self-WIFOM", which usually relates to a person trying to figure out if they're trolley-tracking or if their suspicions are well-founded.
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Old 20th January 2012, 04:55 AM   #4952  /  #8
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Mafiaspeak is an evolving language


"Hitting the treadmill"... Is one game old


Daphne....?
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Old 20th January 2012, 02:55 PM   #5124  /  #9
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tribulation .. when three players see the light and form an unholy union.
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Old 21st January 2012, 04:46 PM   #6093  /  #10
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tribulation .. when three players see the light and form an unholy union.
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Old 21st January 2012, 05:23 PM   #6111  /  #11
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FoS - Finger of Suspicion. If somebody does something a bit scummy, but you don't want to put a vote on them at that point, you can FoS them.
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Old 21st January 2012, 05:24 PM   #6112  /  #12
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I should have mentioned that I've noticed an evolving interest in collecting and analyzing GM meta, too.
you've created a monster
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Old 21st January 2012, 06:35 PM   #6125  /  #13
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Oblivion is the monster.
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Old 21st January 2012, 06:43 PM   #6126  /  #14
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why is my avatar a funny kaleidoscope image?
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Old 21st January 2012, 06:53 PM   #6127  /  #15
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thats better
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Old 21st January 2012, 06:58 PM   #6128  /  #16
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Interesting and hmmm - oblivions words of power, guaranteed to make even the strongest mafia player panic and fluster over what they could have possibly said that has attracted ob's attention.
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Old 21st January 2012, 07:14 PM   #6131  /  #17
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that's is hmm. two m's. three at once are too powerful for a mere mafia game.
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Old 21st January 2012, 07:25 PM   #6132  /  #18
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I used your hmm this morning, just to see if it had any effect. Turns out that power is not mine to wield.

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Old 21st January 2012, 07:31 PM   #6134  /  #19
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I used your hmm this morning, just to see if it had any effect. Turns out that power is not mine to wield.

It's a skill, not a talent. It can be honed. I've practiced for years on teen boys coming home very quietly well past their school night bedtimes.
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Old 21st January 2012, 10:27 PM   #6164  /  #20
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I thought FOS was flavour of scum. live 'n' learn...

Has triangulation got a run on MR yet?
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Old 21st January 2012, 10:54 PM   #6176  /  #21
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I thought FOS was flavour of scum. live 'n' learn...

Has triangulation got a run on MR yet?
See 'tribulation', one page back.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 06:30 PM   #6510  /  #22
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WIFOM stands for "Wine in Front of Me", and it harks from The Princess Bride.

Strictly speaking, it means following tenuous chains of "what is scum trying to make me think/do?"

Player X is the scum night kill. Player X was after players Y and Z the day before. Did scum kill Player X because Player Y or Z are scum? Or did they kill Player X in order to cast suspicion on Player Y or Z? Oh, but they'd know I'd think that it's because Player X was right, so Player Y and Z must be town. It's an endless hall of mirrors.

It appears to me that the definition has grown more diffuse over time, and gets applied to any down-the-rabbit-hole logic chains players get stuck in. You'll see references to "self-WIFOM", which usually relates to a person trying to figure out if they're trolley-tracking or if their suspicions are well-founded.
WIFOM has also been watered down to describe a post that is non commital, eg, well Player X might be town because of this thing but then again they might be scum because of that thing.

When i'm town i want to see people actually putting their money where their mouth is and making a prediction on Player X's alignment. I ant to know if the poster is leaning town or scum on Player X.

Non commital wishy washy behavior is also known as hedging.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 06:32 PM   #6511  /  #23
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hedging is of course an example of an objective tell. It looks scummy because it looks like the poster already knows the alignment of Player X but is pretending they don't. You'll often see a scum player vote to lynch a townie and keep expressing doubts.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 06:33 PM   #6512  /  #24
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Old 22nd January 2012, 07:00 PM   #6516  /  #25
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A ping is the mafia terminology for the feeling you get when you're reading somebodies post and something seems wrong, i.e not pro-town.
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