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Old 26th August 2017, 04:54 AM   #409890  /  #101
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I am inclined to believe MZ's claims, he's seeing me 'protecting' spruce last night and reporting it faithfully makes me lean town on him.

I am also fairly convinced PH is town. He has come across as reporting spruce accurately while playing what seems like a town game.

Obviously I could be badly wrong but, for what it is worth.

MZ town
PH town
And I am leaning town on Spruce.
Counting myself that makes four town.

Carlsson as scum? all the arguments seem to be that he has to be town with rach being town.
Not sure I am in full agreement with that argument, but as PH (i think?) said, the dummy spit seems genuine town spit.

On the other hand, it was a spit that we had not lynch town praying so?
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Old 26th August 2017, 04:55 AM   #409891  /  #102
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Not buying it PH. There being a town AND scum bus driver? Captain Video would have to be a masochist.
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Old 26th August 2017, 04:56 AM   #409892  /  #103
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1) I am the watcher.
2) Praying and spruce visited Charlou N1.
3) Spruce visited OP8 N2.

Why spruce claims to have visited me N2 I don't know. I targeted OP8. Obviously gonna vote MZ though. Gotta put the daughter down. Brb
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He's doubling down. He targetted andrew, and his target went nowhere.

Is there another role that's kinda like a busdriver? Is it possible that scum and town each have a busdriver?

I'd like to hear from everyone who hasn't claimed a night action yet.
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Old 26th August 2017, 05:15 AM   #409893  /  #104
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1. Prince Humperdink……….Busdriver claim
2. rachmarie: Turk Malloy - 1/2 voter/RB
3. Timewave……………… Protector claim
4. Magicziggy…………….Watcher claim
5. Jerome
6. andrewclunn…………Watcher claim
7. OmicronPersei8
8. borealis: Saul Bloom - Universal Backup
9. charlou
10. Carlsson: Virgil Malloy
11. spruce:……………….Tracker claim
12. praying: Linus Caldwell - Cop[/QUOTE]


MZ claims watcher.
Andrew counterclaims watcher.

MZ reports accurately my night moves.
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Old 26th August 2017, 05:19 AM   #409896  /  #105
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MZ claims watcher
Andrew counterclaims watcher.

MZ reports correctly my night moves
Spruce denies the accuracy of Andrews reports

Lynch Andrew.
If he should flip town Watcher, both Spruce and MZ are outed as scum

That has to be how we play it.
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Old 26th August 2017, 05:19 AM   #409897  /  #106
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so, MZ and TW scum is a possibility, right?

Jerome, OP8, and charlou, you guys need to claim.
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Old 26th August 2017, 05:26 AM   #409899  /  #107
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so, MZ and TW scum is a possibility, right?

Jerome, OP8, and charlou, you guys need to claim.
Good point.
I was also involved in the Praying lynch.

So it would make a very possible scum team of the two of us.

Would we be so open about the Praying lynch as a scum team?
Then clearing each other?

Yes, certainly a possibility.
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Old 26th August 2017, 05:33 AM   #409900  /  #108
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No TW, if we misslynch it's game over unless you somehow stop the kill.
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Old 26th August 2017, 05:35 AM   #409901  /  #109
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With these numbers remaining, I don't think scrum would have any issue being associated with each other. All they need is one mislynch followed by a night kill and it's over (again assuming three of them). Totally different rules for a potential last day.
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Old 26th August 2017, 05:43 AM   #409904  /  #110
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No TW, if we misslynch it's game over unless you somehow stop the kill.
This reads as you seeing me as Town?

You don't agree with PH that if MZ is scum I have to be scum and backing his play?

Remember I am saying MZ has read m right while Spruce is saying you have read him wrong?
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Old 26th August 2017, 05:53 AM   #409905  /  #111
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Yes I believe you are town. I think PH is lying about his busdriver targets (he's kept N1 actions secret for some reason still). Bus driver is typically a scum role, and especially with this many investigators. I figured either you or spruce were the doc. Don't know how MZ knew it was you and that you protected spruce. It's a ballsy claim, and I top my hat off to him if it was as much of a gamble as I'm betting it was. That's the kind of move that wins games if you can pull it off, and I won't be underestimating his scum game any time soon.
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Old 26th August 2017, 06:01 AM   #409906  /  #112
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@ Andrew.

With nine players left in the game, you think MZ guessed that I am doc AND that I doctored Spruce last night?

No, just no.
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Old 26th August 2017, 06:06 AM   #409908  /  #113
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MZ Announced our Roles cleared each other before either of us outed our roles.

When he said that I had misgivings about him and was prepared to call him on it.

THEN

He said that he had seen me visit Spruce last night.
It all fits together too well.

Maybe he could be a scum watcher or something, but he DID NOT Guess my night actions.

Why did I protect PH night one and Spruce Night Two?
If anyone was guessing, wouldn't they guess the other way around?
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Old 26th August 2017, 06:08 AM   #409909  /  #114
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Actually well played. You did what you needed to do. But it convinces me to give this up.

I'm the watcher.
Night 1 Carlsson. No one
Night 2 spruce. Tw

Spruce is tracker.
Tw is doc.

Andrew is lying. Lynch or probably lose cos if you can't Lynch a caught liar today you won't tomorrow.

##unvote ph##
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I'm out.
I mean I was only told who visited my targets. Somehow MZ knew the roles of (or to be claimed by) the people he says he saw. I'm just as confused about his knowing that spruce is / would claim tracker. That is not a watcher power.
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Old 26th August 2017, 06:09 AM   #409910  /  #115
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Yes I believe you are town. I think PH is lying about his busdriver targets (he's kept N1 actions secret for some reason still). Bus driver is typically a scum role, and especially with this many investigators
Scum flail.

N1 I chose not to busdrive. I even stated that early on D2. Bus driver is not typically a scum role, at least in the games I've played. I have no problem with all the investigators as watcher/tracker/voyeur/etc. are expected in role madness.
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Old 26th August 2017, 06:16 AM   #409911  /  #116
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Spruce, was there anything in your messages that would reveal you as tracker? I ask because if so and there's a second translator that could explain MZ's knowledge of others roles.
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Old 26th August 2017, 10:09 AM   #409914  /  #117
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Re-evaluation

Charlou - always applies occam's razor. It would astound me if she didn't vote Andrew. Cautiously optimistic she may be town.

PH - genuinely seems to be working through possibilities. Left a vote on Andrew long enough for Scum to hammer and when they didn't I think it was him that pointed it out. Town.

Spruce - possibly applying the same caution as ph but remaining wary of the insurance Scum are putting in place of Andrew is lynched.

Tw - I read him as town. The first thought when he came up as spruces visitor was doc. There has to be a doc and he is it.

Op8- seems pretty cautious. There's no way Andrew is flipping anything but Scum. I'm wary now.

Jerome. Planted a vote and fucked off. Hopefully when he returns he'll be able to cut through the bullshit. Or if he's Scum he'll buy it hook line and sinker as planned.

It would be kind of nice if Carlsson could get over his tantrum and play. Note when applying occams I declared before any other claims that Carlsson was not visited by anybody. Nobody has contradicted that. I don't think Carlsson does emo meltdown Scum. If he does he can have the win. I can't be bothered with that shit.

Basically Andrew is Scum and the rest are up in the air to be sorted tomorrow.

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Old 26th August 2017, 11:26 AM   #409916  /  #118
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Spruce confirms tracker. Andrew N1 and charlou N2, neither target went anywhere.
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I reported that backwards. He tracked Charlou N1 and Andrew N2. Neither of the people he targeted went anywhere.

To me, that implies those two could be scum goons who didn't put in the kill. Or they have some other handicap like rach/carlsson.
I blocked rach on n1.
I redirected actions targetting spruce onto op8 on n2.
I have one 1 shot action left.
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Old 26th August 2017, 11:27 AM   #409917  /  #119
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##unvote Andrew##

##vote spruce##
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Old 26th August 2017, 12:01 PM   #409918  /  #120
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Lol. Andrew spruce Charlou.

Probably done enough to win. I've not played enough role madness to know the Scum tactics but this is good.

Charlou voted Andrew knowing what she knows. Now she switches. It's all about splitting the vote

I don't mind who we vote but we need five votes on one of them.
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Old 26th August 2017, 12:35 PM   #409919  /  #121
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Andrew and spruce, yes. Me, no. I am town and my role is joat.
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Old 26th August 2017, 12:58 PM   #409920  /  #122
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Five town votes on one Scum player. That's what we need. I agree that your vote on Andrew look town. But removing it isn't. If Andrew were town he would have been hammered. Tw and I a definitely town. Therefore there was Scum out there that could have hammered. Andrew is Scum. We need to Lynch together.
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Old 26th August 2017, 01:25 PM   #409921  /  #123
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Out of my hands. I'll check in the morning.
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Old 26th August 2017, 01:40 PM   #409922  /  #124
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Mind you, it was MZ who pushed so hard to have a Town Praying Lynched.
Is this true? I haven't re-read day 2 yet. reading d3 now to spreadsheet
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Old 26th August 2017, 01:49 PM   #409923  /  #125
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Spruce confirms tracker. Andrew N1 and charlou N2, neither target went anywhere.
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I reported that backwards. He tracked Charlou N1 and Andrew N2. Neither of the people he targeted went anywhere.

To me, that implies those two could be scum goons who didn't put in the kill. Or they have some other handicap like rach/carlsson.
I blocked rach on n1.
I redirected actions targetting spruce onto op8 on n2.
I have one 1 shot action left.
Why would you block each n1?

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