Links
Portal |  Forum | Core Values | 
MindRomp Forum  

FAQ Janitors Arcade
Go Back   MindRomp Forum > General Discussion > News, Sports & Politics

News, Sports & Politics Hello, good evening, and welcome...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 23rd January 2012, 08:20 PM   #7252  /  #1
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
U.S. Senator Detained by TSA

http://www.wsmv.com/story/16578487/k...etained-at-bna

NASHVILLE, TN (WSMV) - Kentucky U.S. Senator Rand Paul was held by TSA officials at Nashville International Airport Monday morning after an "irregularity" was found during the security screening process.

Paul lives in Bowling Green, KY., and is the son of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul.
Aides to the senator said Sen. Paul set off a full body scanning machine going through airport security. Sen. Paul claimed it was a "glitch" and wanted to keep going.

An aide told NBC News that Sen. Paul told the screeners he doesn't have any metal. Apparently it was his right leg that was setting off the scanner. He raised his pant leg and showed them his leg, according to the aide. Paul said it was "clearly a glitch."

The aide said TSA refused to let him re-scan and demanded that he submit to a full body pat down.

The TSA said in a news release that "the passenger" was rebooked on another flight and was rescreened without incident.
"These are the indignities, and it's not just me. It's not because of who I am. Americans are going through the airport everyday and being subjected to these indignities. Nobody's thinking about who can attack us, who would attack us, it's just this mindlessness," said Sen. Paul.

The Kentucky senator has previously been critical about pat downs at a hearing.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 23rd January 2012, 08:21 PM   #7255  /  #2
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
http://thehill.com/blogs/transportat...-paul-standoff

The White House is standing by the Transportation Security Administration in its standoff with Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and his father, Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

The elder Paul called the TSA a "police state" Monday after Rand Paul was reportedly detained by TSA after he refused to take a pat-down from TSA officials at the Nashville International Airport.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said Monday that he didn't have any reaction to Paul's "police state" comments.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 23rd January 2012, 09:24 PM   #7284  /  #3
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/ra...e-the-cubicle

Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul told The Daily Caller that being “detained” by the Transportation Security Administration at the Nashville airport Monday was a major ordeal that underscores flaws in TSA’s procedures that affect tens of millions of passengers every year.
“It was a big headache,” Paul said in a phone interview. “I missed my speech here. I was supposed to speak to the Right to Life March, probably the biggest audience I’ll get to speak to, and I missed it.”
The White House, through spokesman Jay Carney, defended the TSA’s actions during Monday’s press briefing by arguing that Paul wasn’t technically “detained.”

“Let’s be clear,” Carney said. “The passenger was not detained. He was escorted out of the area by local law-enforcement.”

But Sen. Paul told TheDC that he certainly felt like he was detained. “If you’re told you can’t leave, does that count as detention?” Paul asked.
“I tried to leave the cubicle to speak to one of the TSA people and I was barked at: ‘Do not leave the cubicle!’ So, that, to me sounds like I’m being asked not to leave the cubicle. It sounds a little bit like I’m being detained.”

The incident started after the scanner Paul walked through sounded its alarm. Current TSA rules would require Paul to undergo a mandatory pat-down before proceeding to his plane. But Paul told TheDC that the TSA agents caved in after a two-hour battle and allowed him to go through the scanner again without additional physical screening.

“For an hour and a half, they said ‘absolutely, I would have to [accept a pat-down],’” Paul said. “And, because I used my cell phone, they told me I would have to do a full body pat down because you’re not allowed to use your cell phone when you’re being detained.”

“It’s like, well, I can’t call my attorney? I can’t call my office to tell them I’m going to miss a speech to 200,000 people?”

“In the end, after two hours of this quarreling,” Sen. Paul explained, “they did let me walk through the screener [machine] and it didn’t go off. So what the TSA is not telling you is the screeners are being used as random devices as well. The [mechanical] screeners will go off randomly, and the [agent] screeners don’t know that it’s a random call but it has nothing to do with what you’ve done.”
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 23rd January 2012, 11:21 PM   #7305  /  #4
Grumps
Shitmix Galore
 
Grumps's Avatar
 

Why should I give a shit about these sensationalist, ideological cunts?

It was Ron Paul who equated death from lack of affordable medical care to freedom. He and his son are completely fucking irrelevant to everything, everywhere at any point in time.
__________________
My signature could beat up your signature.
Grumps is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 23rd January 2012, 11:56 PM   #7325  /  #5
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumps View Post

It was Ron Paul who equated death from lack of affordable medical care to freedom.
No he didn't, the stupid analogy the debate moderator gave was a guy that could afford health care but made the choice not to pay for it.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 23rd January 2012, 11:59 PM   #7328  /  #6
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumps View Post
Why should I give a shit about these sensationalist, ideological cunts?
Did you feel the same way when Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney was accosted by the Capital Police on her way to Congress?



__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 12:01 AM   #7330  /  #7
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
Tell us more about how all freedom loving people should praise the TSA pulling out the colostomy bags of the elderly.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 12:05 PM   #7683  /  #8
Grumps
Shitmix Galore
 
Grumps's Avatar
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
Tell us more about how all freedom loving people should praise the TSA pulling out the colostomy bags of the elderly.

lol.

Ron Paul propaganda 101:

Quote:
No one has a right to medical care. If one assumes such a right, it endorses the notion that some individuals have a right to someone else’s life and property. This totally contradicts the principles of liberty.
Source?

Watch the video.

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/health-care

Ron Paul equates death from lack of medical care to freedom, as if somehow free, Government-funded (and therefore sustainable) medical care is oppression.

What a cunt.

Anybody who believes this shit has nothing of value to say about Freedom, and can only be called a sensationalist, propagandic cunt.
__________________
My signature could beat up your signature.
Grumps is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 01:20 PM   #7729  /  #9
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
Right, doctors should work for the State, then we can have an entire profession destroyed like we have done with teaching.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 04:06 PM   #7763  /  #10
Grumps
Shitmix Galore
 
Grumps's Avatar
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
Right, doctors should work for the State, then we can have an entire profession destroyed like we have done with teaching.
Teaching? The profession of teaching is being destroyed by John Q. Public thinking they know how to run things, by John Q. Public thinking that it's an easy job, a simple one, and that anybody could do it, by putting pressure on Local MPs to revert necessary chages, by constantly talking about 'how good things were in the old days', by those cunting PTA meetings that give parents influence over the classroom. Nevermind that even this present generation of children were reading and writing at an earlier age, their grasp of complex ideas is more advanced, their critical thinking and deducation skills are more advanced and are to all extents and purposes bi-lingual, able to read text messages comprised of symbols and numbers as fluently as I read ordinary English.

If anyone's going to fuck up teaching, it will be the people who think they know how things ought to be.

Also, how nice of you to completely dodge Ron Paul's Death over affordable medical care advocation.
__________________
My signature could beat up your signature.
Grumps is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 05:40 PM   #7771  /  #11
borealis
poikilothermic
 
borealis's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
Right, doctors should work for the State, then we can have an entire profession destroyed like we have done with teaching.
Doctors don't have to work for the state, they can just be paid for essential medical services to citizens by the state. They can see as few or as many patients as they like. They can set up practice wherever they like. They can specialise as they like. There are many non-essential services they can provide and charge whatever they care to perform, which vary province to province. Single payer health care is not a totalitarian imposition of state of slavery on the medical profession.

You know 'the state' in the guise of the provinces here pays teachers as well, and our schools are quite good in most places. The ordinary elementary and high schools my nieces attended offered a broad range of courses, including French immersion programs, arts, music, sports, programs for high achievers, assistance for children with learning disabilities, and a high level of teacher approval rates from parents and children. The local rural schools offer similar programs. The junior high nearest me, literally this school is in the woods, is well known for its annual musical production - local people, retired teachers, middle aged alumni help out with running it every year.

Good schools require that the community itself wants them and appreciates them, and appreciates the professional educators as well.

It's misleading to say the mess of American education is due to state funding. It's more likely due to bizarre educational policies, lack of respect for the profession, failure to properly educate or require proper education of the teachers themselves, failure to help the children of urban ghetto or marginalised rural populations and/or a myriad other factors.
borealis is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 09:55 PM   #7870  /  #12
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumps View Post

If anyone's going to fuck up teaching, it will be the people who think they know how things ought to be.
Right, we should have politicians in a central location decide what and how to teach, because we all know that education is immune from the corruption in government.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 10:07 PM   #7886  /  #13
borealis
poikilothermic
 
borealis's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumps View Post

If anyone's going to fuck up teaching, it will be the people who think they know how things ought to be.
Right, we should have politicians in a central location decide what and how to teach, because we all know that education is immune from the corruption in government.
Well there's your problem right there. Why do you have politicians deciding things regarding subjects they most likely are at best woefully uninformed regarding if not totally ignorant?

Sane systems have entire departments staffed by people well educated in the field, people who are not subject to election cycles, to research better ways to achieve the desired results, devise appropriate standards, and present their findings to the end users. The politicians are only in there to figure out how much of this they can promise to deliver and how much money is available to deliver it.
borealis is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 10:09 PM   #7890  /  #14
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
Quote:
Originally Posted by borealis View Post
Doctors don't have to work for the state, they can just be paid for essential medical services to citizens by the state. They can see as few or as many patients as they like. They can set up practice wherever they like. They can specialise as they like. There are many non-essential services they can provide and charge whatever they care to perform, which vary province to province. Single payer health care is not a totalitarian imposition of state of slavery on the medical profession.
The one paying the bill is the one that makes the demands. Changing that from government fostered mega corporations to the State is not going to make it better. Ohh, and if you remember hillary-care the State was dictating what medical students could study and where they could practice.

Quote:
You know 'the state' in the guise of the provinces here pays teachers as well, and our schools are quite good in most places. The ordinary elementary and high schools my nieces attended offered a broad range of courses, including French immersion programs, arts, music, sports, programs for high achievers, assistance for children with learning disabilities, and a high level of teacher approval rates from parents and children. The local rural schools offer similar programs. The junior high nearest me, literally this school is in the woods, is well known for its annual musical production - local people, retired teachers, middle aged alumni help out with running it every year.
All things work better in relatively small homogenous populations.

Quote:
Good schools require that the community itself wants them and appreciates them, and appreciates the professional educators as well.
Should not the community require that the schools are deserving of appreciation? What you are describing sounds backwards here.

Quote:
It's misleading to say the mess of American education is due to state funding. It's more likely due to bizarre educational policies, lack of respect for the profession, failure to properly educate or require proper education of the teachers themselves, failure to help the children of urban ghetto or marginalised rural populations and/or a myriad other factors.
Increased Federal involvement correlates with decrease in quality, national involvement with the system is relatively new. The respect for teachers as a whole (not as individuals) here is in many cases low because they are perceived as overpaid greedy whiners living off the backs of the common worker with ever reduced results.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 24th January 2012, 10:12 PM   #7893  /  #15
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
Quote:
Originally Posted by borealis View Post
Well there's your problem right there. Why do you have politicians deciding things regarding subjects they most likely are at best woefully uninformed regarding if not totally ignorant?
The system was designed in Prussia in the late 1800's with the purpose of creating a button pushing class that could serve the needs of the elite without having the reasoning ability to question the elite. The system was instituted in the States by the elite industrialists at the turn of the last century.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 25th January 2012, 01:05 PM   #8594  /  #16
redunderthebed
Junior Member
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
Right, doctors should work for the State, then we can have an entire profession destroyed like we have done with teaching.
I live in a country which has EVIL STATE SOCIALIST PUBLIC HEALTH CARE.


The doctor does not work for the state all they do is collect subsidies from the state so those who are eligible can see a doctor for nothing or subsidised price.

Doctors are not any poorer and often the pricks driving around town in the flash cars and the trophy wives. Hell they have a term for upper-class lefty women "doctors wives".

The ones who predict doom about public healthcare know nothing about it.

Last edited by redunderthebed; 25th January 2012 at 01:07 PM.
redunderthebed is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Old 25th January 2012, 01:24 PM   #8607  /  #17
Jerome
Life is just a bowl of cherries
 
Jerome's Avatar
 

Read my posts with the following stupid accent: Pleasant Living
See guys, that poster has no respect for doctors.
__________________
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.
-Albert Camus
Jerome is offline   Reply With Quote topbottom
Reply

  MindRomp Forum > General Discussion > News, Sports & Politics

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2011-2018 MindRomp.org