Dumbfuckistan Politics

[gib]

Originally Posted by Majiffy

I must say, I appreciated the Russian Embassy's cheeky "actually he was a British spy for MI-6" tweet to the 'Russian Spy' headline.

now we learn a cat starved to death in a day https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/598364...poison-attack

[Majiffy]

Well now I'm fucking outraged. Kill the spy and their family, sure, but leave the goddamn pets out of your wargames!

[Catavenger]

Hillary or him??

[Majiffy]

There's a shirt I can get behind

[Imp]

Because you can't fit in it?

[Cunt]

Originally Posted by Imp

Because you can't fit in it?

He can't fit in his CAT!?!?!

HOW do you even know that?

[Imp]

Oh we cyber like all the time

[OmicronPersei8]

on ICQ

[Cunt]

You guys are DISGUSTING!!!

I only do that stuff where it belongs - on YahooChat

[OmicronPersei8]

next you'll be telling us you still use a compuserve email account

[Cunt]

Cunt@AOL.com

[OmicronPersei8]

[Zeluvia]

The madness has to stop somewhere.

If you build your house on a KNOWN underground LAVA Vent from an ACTIVE volcano, I don't see a reason to give you Federal Emergency Disaster funds when that Volcano eats your house with flaming lava. After all, the reason you built there was because the land was cheap as shit because it was over a KNOWN LAVA VENT.

Likewise, if you build a structure on a BARRIER Island and a Hurricane blows it away, I don't think you should get disaster relief funds. Nor do I think disaster relief funds should be used to replace sand on said barrier island to protect your house, golf club, casino, resort, or whatever the fuck you stupidly put in the way of Mother Nature.

I am going to add 100 year flood plains of to the list of things I don't think you should get Federal Money for.

And I am beginning to think if you live in Tornado Alley and you live in a Mobile Home, you should be forced to move your home somewhere safer. Maybe put it on floats, and move to Houston...

There should be a limit on what FEMA will pay for when people deliberately troll mother nature.

Fires, Floods, Hurricanes, tornado damage to REAL structures, sinkholes, those things are disasters. I am still debating the Earthquake thing. We know where the faults lay.

[spruce]

And have you seen how many folk we've crammed into India and China? What's up with that?

[OmicronPersei8]

Is that why it's called indochina

[Cunt]

If all the good land is already taken, you don't DESERVE to have insurance! Build in the ghetto at your own risk! Life insurance is for people who don't troll mother nature.

(just teasing, Z. I know you were venting)

[borealis]

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

The madness has to stop somewhere.

If you build your house on a KNOWN underground LAVA Vent from an ACTIVE volcano, I don't see a reason to give you Federal Emergency Disaster funds when that Volcano eats your house with flaming lava. After all, the reason you built there was because the land was cheap as shit because it was over a KNOWN LAVA VENT.

Likewise, if you build a structure on a BARRIER Island and a Hurricane blows it away, I don't think you should get disaster relief funds. Nor do I think disaster relief funds should be used to replace sand on said barrier island to protect your house, golf club, casino, resort, or whatever the fuck you stupidly put in the way of Mother Nature.

I am going to add 100 year flood plains of to the list of things I don't think you should get Federal Money for.

And I am beginning to think if you live in Tornado Alley and you live in a Mobile Home, you should be forced to move your home somewhere safer. Maybe put it on floats, and move to Houston...

There should be a limit on what FEMA will pay for when people deliberately troll mother nature.

Fires, Floods, Hurricanes, tornado damage to REAL structures, sinkholes, those things are disasters. I am still debating the Earthquake thing. We know where the faults lay.

I'm told a lot of sinkholes in Florida are a result of decades of swamp draining, so another thing people should have known before building a house. My aunt's house in Florida became virtually unsalable after a few large sinkholes opened up in her neighbourhood. Eventually bought for much less than its pre-sinkhole value.

But people are both ignorant and foolhardy, and also often have little choice in where they can afford to live and what they can afford to live in, so I'm a bit more generous about aid and compensation.

I recently read an article about Chinese drywall, in which people who've never heard of it (primarily from the North) end up buying properties in affected areas (primarily the South):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_drywall

[Zeluvia]

It is hard to predict a sinkhole though. Most sinkholes were at one time aquifers, they were filled with water, and the water was partly the support of the structure. Drain the aquifer, and ironically, new rain causes MORE erosion than if the aquifer was still full, and viola, the limestone gives way and you have a sinkhole. However, sinkholes don't really qualify as Natural Disasters here, because I think there is an amount of damage in $$ that has to be reached before a disaster becomes eligible for Federal Assistance.

[Zeluvia]

Originally Posted by Cunt

If all the good land is already taken, you don't DESERVE to have insurance! Build in the ghetto at your own risk! Life insurance is for people who don't troll mother nature.

(just teasing, Z. I know you were venting)

Life insurance is for survivors : )

It does you no good at all.

[Zeluvia]

Originally Posted by Cunt

If all the good land is already taken, you don't DESERVE to have insurance! Build in the ghetto at your own risk! Life insurance is for people who don't troll mother nature.

(just teasing, Z. I know you were venting)

I think these people are victims of a real estate scam. From my perusal of tax records, most of the land was owned by out of state "investors" until fairly recently, when they created Leilani estates and started selling off parcels. The land SHOULD have been part of Volcano National Park, but somehow, it didn't end up there : )

In Hawaii, you have to pay property taxes even if your land was covered by lava : )

So, same as with Chinese Drywall, there should be someone to SUE, because that is the way the law works in the US. Punishment is done through civil courts. Or supposed to be. Before corporations bought the government and started protecting themselves from their own fraudulent practices.

[Cunt]

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

I think these people are victims of a real estate scam. From my perusal of tax records, most of the land was owned by out of state "investors" until fairly recently, when they created Leilani estates and started selling off parcels. The land SHOULD have been part of Volcano National Park, but somehow, it didn't end up there : )

In Hawaii, you have to pay property taxes even if your land was covered by lava : )

So, same as with Chinese Drywall, there should be someone to SUE, because that is the way the law works in the US. Punishment is done through civil courts. Or supposed to be. Before corporations bought the government and started protecting themselves from their own fraudulent practices.

It's why I am reluctant to invest. Where is my money going? Will it get out before a crash like this (ruining people and their lives) ?

When offered investment opportunities, I always like to consider whether I would invest in the business if it were a whorehouse. It is a thought exercise, but keeps my attention on harm to people, where an abstract (like investing in a vague corporation) might not get proper consideration.

An investor could put money in to a whorehouse, build up the business for 5 years or so, then sell off their HUGE increased stocks, and retire to Mexico before all the REALLY awful effects of the whorehouse show up.

Savvy investors do this all the time, getting out before everyone gets fucked. I think it might be the whole investment model for some folks.

For me, nothing but real estate for now.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

The madness has to stop somewhere.

If you build your house on a KNOWN underground LAVA Vent from an ACTIVE volcano, I don't see a reason to give you Federal Emergency Disaster funds when that Volcano eats your house with flaming lava. After all, the reason you built there was because the land was cheap as shit because it was over a KNOWN LAVA VENT.

Likewise, if you build a structure on a BARRIER Island and a Hurricane blows it away, I don't think you should get disaster relief funds. Nor do I think disaster relief funds should be used to replace sand on said barrier island to protect your house, golf club, casino, resort, or whatever the fuck you stupidly put in the way of Mother Nature.

I am going to add 100 year flood plains of to the list of things I don't think you should get Federal Money for.

And I am beginning to think if you live in Tornado Alley and you live in a Mobile Home, you should be forced to move your home somewhere safer. Maybe put it on floats, and move to Houston...

There should be a limit on what FEMA will pay for when people deliberately troll mother nature.

Fires, Floods, Hurricanes, tornado damage to REAL structures, sinkholes, those things are disasters. I am still debating the Earthquake thing. We know where the faults lay.

Just like farm aid programs, the rich get most of the cash flowing through those systems .. all on the back of the working class.

Yea, Government!!!

[OmicronPersei8]

Tell us about your rain tax jerome

[Zeluvia]

Jerome and I actually agree on this. It's like student financial aid. It was a good idea but it's totally fucked now and just another wealth transfer tool.

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