Do sports matter?

[Cunt]

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

Peoples lifetime earning power is related to their PHYSICAL competitive attributes.

In order to show it is true, you have to show it is true in ALL circumstances.

However, it has been shown that people's lifetime earning power is related to their PHYSICAL attractiveness, but that applies across both sexes and all groups.

Now I added the word Physical, because you are talking about Sports.

Funny, it looked like you added the word 'physical' because it was too hard to put down my opinion without it.

I haven't made it into a clear, falsifiable statement...maybe I could, but it's not easy to even talk around this.

Is sport only physical? Or are there other valuable and important qualities on display?

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

You are not talking about esports, or spelling bees, or Chess, or other non physical competition correct?

I think we can include chess with 'competitions that males clearly dominate in mixed fair competition'. I don't know much about the other competitions you mention.

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

Or is your theory that people who engage in ANY competitive endeavor likely to earn more?

No, but instead that the difference shown in those competitive areas is applicable to employment or the business world.

Such as competing for available overtime hours, raises, promotions etc.

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

So, do men who engage in sports earn more than men who don't?
Do women who engage in sports earn more than women who don't?

I would guess yes, but it doesn't matter to my point. I'm suggesting that males show more of everything measured in sport, and that it translates to the same kind of result in business or employment - since they are also competitive areas.

I don't know why this is so hard to get across.

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

If you want to show that sports gives an advantage, and is a PRIMARY reason for that advantage, it has to over other variables.

I am not showing that sports gives an advantage, but that sports results show one group consistently outperforming the other. So if there were any area where men and women compete fairly, I would expect it to carry over.

Originally Posted by Magicziggy

Let's just assume this is my one and only contribution to this discussion.

I skipped reading your comment because you won't be contributing further anyway. I may read it later, if I get bored with conversing.

Do you need a fainting couch? Are you going to be okay?

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Cunt

or ability to negotiate salary

How does that work?

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Cunt

or height, or charm

I am tall and charming, I make fat cash.

How should it work?

Short assholes get as much as I, by what system?

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by OmicronPersei8

OTOH, I find women's softball infinitely more enjoyable to watch than professional baseball

You are an idiot.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Cunt

Men outperform women in EVERY athletic endeavour (except maybe for endurance swim)

Gymnastics

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Cunt

By the way, I think comparing the incomes of men vs women is also 'too large to generalize', but many people still take it pretty seriously.

Only by those that don't understand statistics, and those using statistics to lie to the ignorant.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Imp

They have football for women now would you believe

Didn't like team of 12 year old boys beat the Australian National Women's team, like in a rout?

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

When you don't know how to do something, you can hardly CHOOSE to do it.

What does this even mean?

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by borealis

I\- do you want women on the whole to earn less money than men?

Here is the joke, why should anyone be 'earning money' outside of needing to pay tax to the Queen on one's own labor?

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

Well I don't understand this statement at all then. If there is a huge performance difference between chinese players and black players in competitive basketball, aren't you saying this should carry over into the workplace and we would see a huge difference between the pay of black people and chinese people?

The problem with this extrapolation is that a lot of people can excel, from every categorization, for most 'jobs'. Sports are a special, like acting, very few of any characterization garner the view of the public worthy of the pay. Entertainment is a queer aspect of human society.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by borealis

Why brute force over more nimble fingers?

I prefer nimble fingers over brute force in my women.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by borealis

a weak underclass

He never said such a thing. You argue dishonestly.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Imp

Can't say I've ever wrestled anyone for a raise.

Well, you are doing it wrong then.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Timewave

Sport is all about cheating and drugs and more cheating and booze and more cheating and steroids and more cheating.
Any professional sportsperson should be castrated or neutered so they can't multiply.

But how then would beer be sold?

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Zeluvia

You keep coming back to men and women. You need to show your theory works with another set.

firemen

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Magicziggy

Let's just assume this is my one and only contribution to this discussion.

It wasn't very good, to be frank.

[Cunt]

Originally Posted by Jerome

How does that work?

How does what work?

Originally Posted by Jerome

Gymnastics

Like the iron cross? Or ribbon-dancing?

[Jerome]

How does society equalize not having the ability to negotiate the same advantage as someone who does?

Whatever the public is willing to watch, thus pay for.

[Cunt]

Originally Posted by Jerome

How does society equalize not having the ability to negotiate the same advantage as someone who does?

I've seen an effort to remove personally identifying information from educational funding applications. It seems to be a step in that direction.

[Jerome]

Its an absurd idea, and you know it in your heart.

There are people that you like, and people you don't, its just the way things are.

Some people are better at people than others. No scheme will ever equalize this.

[Jerome]

Where did you go pally wally?

Real intentional conversation, with like thinking and stuff too much for your brawny ass?

[Cunt]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Where did you go pally wally?

I don't understand your 'patter'. Maybe you should try drinking less alcohol.

[Zeluvia]

Hi Jerome, thanks for stopping by !

= )

[OmicronPersei8]

it sok guys, jerome is here to wrap this up

[Carlsson]

finally