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Old 21st January 2018, 02:33 PM   #417854  /  #1026
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this thread was much better last year, come on guys
Well, we now know that Petty was an OD, that's something.
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Old 21st January 2018, 10:17 PM   #417858  /  #1027
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Petty had fentanyl and oxycodone in his system.

Not for the faint of heart. Shame he didn't have or make use of
qualified medical advice or didn't follow orders.
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Old 23rd January 2018, 10:40 PM   #417986  /  #1028
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Ursula K. Le Guin, the immensely popular author who brought literary depth and a tough-minded feminist sensibility to science fiction and fantasy with books like “The Left Hand of Darkness” and the Earthsea series, died on Monday at her home in Portland, Ore. She was 88.
I've never read her work but I gather oblivion and borealis are fans http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?p=414418
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Old 24th January 2018, 12:32 AM   #417995  /  #1029
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She was a wonderful author, understanding the hazards of both dystopia and utopia.

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"Hard times are coming," she warned, "when we'll be wanting the voices of writers who can see alternatives to how we live now, can see through our fear-stricken society and its obsessive technologies to other ways of being, and even imagine real grounds for hope. We'll need writers who can remember freedom — poets, visionaries, realists of a larger reality."
LeGuin, at the 2014 National Book Awards

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Old 24th January 2018, 12:45 AM   #417997  /  #1030
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I guess I'll have to read one of her books
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Old 24th January 2018, 12:59 AM   #417999  /  #1031
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Read some of her books. She's written sci-fi, young adult, straight fiction, short stories, and my favourite, Always Coming Home, which is at times a novel, at times sci-fi, at times post apocalyptic, contains poems, short descriptive bits, and can ime be opened almost anywhere for a quick read of something often lovely, occasionally homely.

ETA some quotes from ACH:

“When mind uses itself without the hands it runs the circle and may go too fast.... The hand that shapes the mind into clay or written word slows thought to the gait of things and lets it be subject to accident and time. Purity is on the edge of evil, they say.”

(Peaceful village encounters invasive war-inclined neighbours)

“Ethical counsel from the Under White Mountain people, far down the eastern coast of the Inland Sea, was not very well received. They advised: ‘Do not fight these sick people, cure them with human behavior,’ to which Rekwit responded tersely, ‘You come up north here and do that.”
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Old 24th January 2018, 01:41 AM   #418003  /  #1032
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what would be your recommendation for the most pure sci-fi book she's written?
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Old 24th January 2018, 01:51 AM   #418004  /  #1033
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Maybe the Hainish Cycle books? Left Hand of Darkness is the most famous. They arent a series, so you can read them in any order.

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The Hainish Cycle consists of a number of science fiction novels and stories by Ursula K. Le Guin. It is set in an alternate history/future history in which civilizations of human beings on planets orbiting a number of nearby stars, including Terra (Earth), are contacting each other for the first time and establishing diplomatic relations, setting up a confederacy under the guidance of the oldest of the human worlds, peaceful Hain. In this history, human beings did not evolve on Earth but were the result of interstellar colonies planted by Hain long ago, which was followed by a long period when interstellar travel ceased. Some of the races have new genetic traits, a result of ancient Hainish experiments in genetic engineering, including people who can dream while awake, and a world of androgynous people who only come into active sexuality once a month, and their gender can change. In keeping with Le Guin's style, she uses varied social and environmental settings to explore the anthropological and sociological outcomes of human evolution in those diverse environments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainish_Cycle
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Old 24th January 2018, 03:19 AM   #418005  /  #1034
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https://www.utilitarianism.com/nu/omelas.pdf

I loved her short stories most of all.
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Old 24th January 2018, 03:33 AM   #418006  /  #1035
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thanks bor, I'll definitely read one and possibly more!
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Old 24th January 2018, 02:04 PM   #418017  /  #1036
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The last game ob did over at TR was one based on a very short story that LeGuin wrote and it was something else. You were in that game nos, did you read the bits that she posted at the start of each day?

I am most familiar with her Earthsea trilogy that I read when I was young.

Weird thing was a couple of nights ago I woke up suddenly and remembered a bit of a dream I had of me actually being the wizard as a young lad in the first book and how it ended. No clue why I was dreaming that.

Then today I read that she died

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Old 24th January 2018, 09:14 PM   #418057  /  #1037
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what would be your recommendation for the most pure sci-fi book she's written?
I love The Left Hand of Darkness, but not as much as I love The Dispossessed. Anarcho syndicalism ftw.

For a shorter novel, The Word for World is Forest is quite good. Pits a human colonial grab against a sentient aboriginal native life form and culture. Dehumanizing the non-human is sort of a once-removed form of cultural supremacy. It was an exploration of what dehumanizing the human looks like on a mundane, taken-for-granted level.
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Old 24th January 2018, 09:37 PM   #418061  /  #1038
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Old 24th January 2018, 10:05 PM   #418065  /  #1039
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Maybe the Hainish Cycle books? Left Hand of Darkness is the most famous. They arent a series, so you can read them in any order.

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The Hainish Cycle consists of a number of science fiction novels and stories by Ursula K. Le Guin. It is set in an alternate history/future history in which civilizations of human beings on planets orbiting a number of nearby stars, including Terra (Earth), are contacting each other for the first time and establishing diplomatic relations, setting up a confederacy under the guidance of the oldest of the human worlds, peaceful Hain. In this history, human beings did not evolve on Earth but were the result of interstellar colonies planted by Hain long ago, which was followed by a long period when interstellar travel ceased. Some of the races have new genetic traits, a result of ancient Hainish experiments in genetic engineering, including people who can dream while awake, and a world of androgynous people who only come into active sexuality once a month, and their gender can change. In keeping with Le Guin's style, she uses varied social and environmental settings to explore the anthropological and sociological outcomes of human evolution in those diverse environments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainish_Cycle
What about the Lathe of Heaven? That is a book I wish I could unread so I could have the pleasure of reading it again for the first time.
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Old 24th January 2018, 10:15 PM   #418068  /  #1040
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Maybe the Hainish Cycle books? Left Hand of Darkness is the most famous. They arent a series, so you can read them in any order.

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The Hainish Cycle consists of a number of science fiction novels and stories by Ursula K. Le Guin. It is set in an alternate history/future history in which civilizations of human beings on planets orbiting a number of nearby stars, including Terra (Earth), are contacting each other for the first time and establishing diplomatic relations, setting up a confederacy under the guidance of the oldest of the human worlds, peaceful Hain. In this history, human beings did not evolve on Earth but were the result of interstellar colonies planted by Hain long ago, which was followed by a long period when interstellar travel ceased. Some of the races have new genetic traits, a result of ancient Hainish experiments in genetic engineering, including people who can dream while awake, and a world of androgynous people who only come into active sexuality once a month, and their gender can change. In keeping with Le Guin's style, she uses varied social and environmental settings to explore the anthropological and sociological outcomes of human evolution in those diverse environments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainish_Cycle
What about the Lathe of Heaven? That is a book I wish I could unread so I could have the pleasure of reading it again for the first time.
That's an awesome one, too. Ever wonder what kind of hellish alternate history would have made this one look like a fix?
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Old 24th January 2018, 11:41 PM   #418082  /  #1041
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i read the dispossesed at a pliable age, lathe of heaven sounds familiar too. Would be interested to read them again
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Old 24th February 2018, 08:16 PM   #420597  /  #1042
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Old 24th February 2018, 09:49 PM   #420601  /  #1043
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Old 25th February 2018, 12:51 AM   #420650  /  #1044
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I know.

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Old 25th February 2018, 12:58 AM   #420655  /  #1045
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Old 4th March 2018, 06:52 AM   #421428  /  #1046
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David Ogden Stiers, 'M*A*S*H*' star and Newport resident, dies at 75
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Old 4th March 2018, 11:37 AM   #421436  /  #1047
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Sir Roger Bannister: First man to run a mile in under four minutes dies at 88
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Old 14th March 2018, 04:54 AM   #421898  /  #1048
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Diagnosed with motor neurone disease at 21. Given 2 years to live. Died at 76, having lived with the disease since before I was born. Vale.

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I must read That book
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