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Old 4th August 2017, 10:27 PM   #407310  /  #5101
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His critics are just as ignorant and impolite as his supporters.
The hilarious part is that both groups would have most individuals reading that as insult, and keep thinking it applies to some other critic/ supporter.
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Old 5th August 2017, 12:59 AM   #407316  /  #5102
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Old 5th August 2017, 03:58 AM   #407352  /  #5103
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Old 5th August 2017, 10:00 AM   #407385  /  #5104
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Old 5th August 2017, 10:20 AM   #407386  /  #5105
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Old 5th August 2017, 11:22 AM   #407394  /  #5106
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Old 11th August 2017, 03:19 AM   #408061  /  #5107
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Old 11th August 2017, 03:24 AM   #408065  /  #5108
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Old 11th August 2017, 03:39 AM   #408074  /  #5109
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Old 12th August 2017, 12:53 PM   #408249  /  #5110
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I've been away from the news for a week. Is Trump going after North Korea or Venezuela or both?
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Old 12th August 2017, 01:27 PM   #408250  /  #5111
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Old 12th August 2017, 01:54 PM   #408252  /  #5112
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I've been away from the news for a week. Is Trump going after North Korea or Venezuela or both?
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Old 12th August 2017, 06:47 PM   #408269  /  #5113
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I've been away from the news for a week. Is Trump going after North Korea or Venezuela or both?
Worse, according to Fake News:

1. Headline: Trump makes another insane threat against N.K. (essentially that;
but can't find the article again, even after having at least opened it)

2. Headline: Trump touts Guam tourism in bizarre phone call. (bold font mine)
(Essentially he said, "You're doing great. Your tourism is going to increase ten fold." Ya, a truly "bizarre" choice of words.)
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Old 12th August 2017, 09:46 PM   #408281  /  #5114
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who knows, after reading the transcripts of the calls to Mexico and Australia, he might decided to nuke them.
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Old 13th August 2017, 08:35 PM   #408319  /  #5115
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Why are people fighting over a statue?
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Old 13th August 2017, 10:38 PM   #408320  /  #5116
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Robert E Lee was the top Confederate General in the Civil War. Depending on your point of view, a hero of the old South or a symbol of the slave-owning class.
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Old 13th August 2017, 11:15 PM   #408321  /  #5117
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Why are people fighting over a statue?
Its about the destruction of the American identity. A long line of actions in a long term plan.
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Old 13th August 2017, 11:19 PM   #408322  /  #5118
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Btw, Robert E. Lee was openly, publicly, and unequivocally against slavery. He called it a "moral and political evil".

Iow, he shows that the war wasn't about slavery, so diminishing him in any way helps keep up the propaganda designed to promote racism.
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Old 14th August 2017, 03:10 AM   #408328  /  #5119
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert...ews_on_slavery
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In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.
this is not open or public, as it was written in a letter to Lee's wife in 1856, and nor is it unequivocal in its attitude to slavery

anyone who says the American Civil War wasn't about slavery is an ahistorical fool
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Old 14th August 2017, 09:38 AM   #408348  /  #5120
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It was a money war. The north wanted more money from the south brought into the national government. As slavery was a big part of the south's economic power, this is why slavery was attacked.

Had the southern states given up more money to the national government, the northern states would have been happy to take the money earned off the backs of the slaves.

The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in 'rebel' states, the loyal states to the union, that still had slaves, got to keep their slaves.


Did you think Iraq had weapons of mass destruction too?
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Old 14th August 2017, 05:37 PM   #408357  /  #5121
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You are both wrong. It had to do with tariffs, not taxes Jerome. The north wanted heavy tariffs on imported goods to protect it's own manufacturing and allow it to charge more for it's goods. The South wanted states to have the power to "nullify" tariffs if they didn't agree with them, so their ports could import goods without charging the tariff.

The north also wanted to buy the South's cotton at prices considerably less than what Europe paid for it. So the export tariff was another serious bone of contention.

Meanwhile, back at the adding territories department, the balance of power in congress was delicate. Abolitionists wanted all new states to come in without slaves, which the South saw as a power grab in Congress that would affect their attempts to use the "nullify" procedure to keep stalling and avoiding tariffs. This led to huge fights over which states would come in as "slave" and which would come in as "free".

The Constitution itself was under fire from both sides. The Framers had made compromises to get everyone on board when it was written. One clause had allowed Congress to end the Importing of Slaves in 1808, which it did. But it also made it a crime for one state to protect slaves that escaped from another state.

So, it's more complicated than just slavery. It does have many economic and more important POWER issues. The issues were about the balance of power in congress and the balance of power between the states and the federal government.

Anyone who thinks that the North was some kind of white knight going to war to free the slaves out of some moral conviction is wrong. The North went to war to protect the Union when the South, fed up with the power struggles it was losing, tried to break away.

One of the other interesting power plays going on at the time was the death of an old political party, the Whigs, and the birth of the New Republican party, the party of the Northern economic interests.
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Old 14th August 2017, 11:07 PM   #408371  /  #5122
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Not wrong, just simplified for the idiot class that is the typical propagandized liberal.

The north wanted the south to put more money into the national pot.

Slavery was not a problem for the north if they got a piece of the profits from the free labor.

Slavery was the political battle cry for the proles to back war, then a political punishment after the war. It was rich people fighting rich people about money.
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Old 15th August 2017, 12:02 AM   #408375  /  #5123
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Not wrong, just simplified for the idiot class that is the typical propagandized liberal.

The north wanted the south to put more money into the national pot.

Slavery was not a problem for the north if they got a piece of the profits from the free labor.

Slavery was the political battle cry for the proles to back war, then a political punishment after the war. It was rich people fighting rich people about money.
No, it wasn't about more money in the pot. It was about protecting northern industry from competition, which caused economic issues in the South.

There was strong anti slavery sentiment in much of the country, even before the revolution, which is why the Constitution was written to allow congress to ban the importing of persons in 1808. And Congress did that, which was fine with the South, because they had plenty of "breeding" stock and saw a market for their slaves in the West. The abolitionist movement was independent of the economic issues, and had nothing to do with them. But it was the new territories that fanned the flames. Abolitionists wanted no more states brought in as slave states. The north jumped on this because with no new slave states, the South would lose power in Congress. The South needed new slave states. The South saw the writing on the wall, even bringing in Texas and Missouri as slave, eventually they would lose the balance of power in Congress and they would lose the ability to contest and nullify the northern Tariffs. That is why they seceded and that is what started the war.
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Old 15th August 2017, 03:48 AM   #408398  /  #5124
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So you see, it really was about slavery.
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Old 15th August 2017, 03:49 AM   #408400  /  #5125
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Also, I can't believe we didn't get to have another summer of love before the shit that's about to go down.
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