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Old 29th August 2019, 12:23 AM   #450171  /  #76
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You end up in some strange alliances, and making strange enemies. Righties defending minority religious rights and same sex attraction, lefties telling Muslims to 'go back home' if they don't like the laws of the country, or insisting that lesbians are creepy vagina fetishists if they won't accept dick.
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You end up in some strange alliances, and making strange enemies. Righties defending minority religious rights and same sex attraction, lefties telling Muslims to 'go back home' if they don't like the laws of the country, or insisting that lesbians are creepy vagina fetishists if they won't accept dick.
I think one of the most shocking is the fact that nowadays, in the US, the 'Right' is the party in favour of free speech.

Fucking BIZARRE bedfellows...but I have found that I enjoy Andrew Klavan, so that's good.
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Old 30th August 2019, 06:20 PM   #450187  /  #79
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Old 30th August 2019, 07:31 PM   #450189  /  #80
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I think one of the most shocking is the fact that nowadays, in the US, the 'Right' is the party in favour of free speech.
I find it funny, too. Especially since when I was a kid, it was exactly the opposite.

But now, look at who gets de-platformed and why. It's pretty fucking clear which 'side' is safer.
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Old 30th August 2019, 07:48 PM   #450190  /  #81
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Old 30th August 2019, 07:51 PM   #450191  /  #82
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Old 31st August 2019, 01:03 AM   #450203  /  #83
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You end up in some strange alliances, and making strange enemies. Righties defending minority religious rights and same sex attraction, lefties telling Muslims to 'go back home' if they don't like the laws of the country, or insisting that lesbians are creepy vagina fetishists if they won't accept dick.
I think one of the most shocking is the fact that nowadays, in the US, the 'Right' is the party in favour of free speech.

Fucking BIZARRE bedfellows...but I have found that I enjoy Andrew Klavan, so that's good.

No, they've branded themselves as the defenders of free speech, but US righties are hostile to the media and aren't above pulling some pretty shitty stunts to try and stop journalists reporting.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/25/u...ews-media.html
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Old 31st August 2019, 01:39 AM   #450211  /  #84
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You end up in some strange alliances, and making strange enemies. Righties defending minority religious rights and same sex attraction, lefties telling Muslims to 'go back home' if they don't like the laws of the country, or insisting that lesbians are creepy vagina fetishists if they won't accept dick.
I think one of the most shocking is the fact that nowadays, in the US, the 'Right' is the party in favour of free speech.

Fucking BIZARRE bedfellows...but I have found that I enjoy Andrew Klavan, so that's good.

No, they've branded themselves as the defenders of free speech, but US righties are hostile to the media and aren't above pulling some pretty shitty stunts to try and stop journalists reporting.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/25/u...ews-media.html
Everyone takes shots at it, obviously, I meant the main thrust. Twitter, facebook and the googles all have a left-leaning bias, and heavy censorship, weighted to one side.

Take a look at how twitter deals with the new gender maths - definitely left (I would argue 'far-left
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Old 31st August 2019, 11:20 PM   #450222  /  #85
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I'm not arguing that the left doesn't have it's own issues when it comes to free speech, but this idea that the right are the defenders of free speech is not supported by evidence. They've managed to very successfully style themselves as the their attitudes and actions toward left wing media say otherwise.
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They've managed to very successfully style themselves as the champions of free speech but their attitudes and actions toward left wing media say otherwise.



I've been supping G&Ts all day so you can all fuck off.
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I'm not arguing that the left doesn't have it's own issues when it comes to free speech, but this idea that the right are the defenders of free speech is not supported by evidence. They've managed to very successfully style themselves as the their attitudes and actions toward left wing media say otherwise.
Isn't nearly ALL media 'left-wing'?

In the US, who is backing 1a (and backing 2a to protect it) and who is against them, or 'free-speech-but'?

Which is the party of 'hate-speech' and 'safe-zones'?

The party of violence against speakers on college campuses? (Antifa - don't know which party they identify with, honestly)
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Old 2nd September 2019, 06:53 PM   #450239  /  #89
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Liberals are soo fucking stupid with their feelings instead of facts. The elite use you and your feelings to destroy society and take more from the poor and workers.


Idiot tools of the uber rich.


Global cooling will kill us all...global warming will kill us all


Plastic bags will save the trees...plastic bags are bad


They soo easily manipulate you fools and your feelings.







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Liberals are soo fucking stupid with their feelings instead of facts. The elite use you and your feelings to destroy society and take more from the poor and workers.


Idiot tools of the uber rich.


Global cooling will kill us all...global warming will kill us all


Plastic bags will save the trees...plastic bags are bad


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Maybe you are smart. Try some calculating (it's beyond me)

1 plastic bag contains xg of plastic, used once, then discarded.

Re-usable bag contains xg of plastic, used n times, means less plastic discarded.

See, the claim I heard, was that those reusable bags contain SO MUCH more plastic, that to equal the amount of waste, you would need to re-use that bag more than 10,000 times before tossing it.

I've suspected for awhile now that math isn't high on the list of 'green tools', so maybe you can shed some light. I think reusable bags are SHIT compared to paper (the 'problem' bags we have been trying to solve for 30 or 40 years now)

ETA - I think the reusable bags are MUCH worse than disposable plastic bags
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Old 3rd September 2019, 07:01 PM   #450249  /  #91
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Liberals are soo fucking stupid with their feelings instead of facts. The elite use you and your feelings to destroy society and take more from the poor and workers.


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Old 4th September 2019, 10:00 AM   #450269  /  #92
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OP8 is now trying to figure how to get sex whilst supporting men beating all the feminists at sports and what not.


The girls with dicks are fucking up how you get sex, lol.


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Old 4th September 2019, 07:32 PM   #450275  /  #94
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I still make my grocery store use paper bags. I never fell for the plastic bag thing. But then I know a bit about farming trees, and how plastic is made.





Modern Plastic does have valid uses, in medicine.



But I prefer the OLD plastics. Bakelite rocked.


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All the 'green' recyclable bags I've purchased come with a plastic 'floor', a rectangle of poly that probably weighs the same as many, many individual plastic bags.

I like to use them as virtue signaling...the more of them I can show (on the floor of my car, where they end up) the more virtuous and 'green' I am.
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https://nationalpost.com/news/trans-...tribunal-rules


Yaniv lost his case, the tribunal was satisfied that the salons didn't offer the service Yaniv was asking for, that he targeted members of the South Asian population deliberately, and also that he deliberately manufactured conditions in order to make human rights complaints. He's been ordered to pay $6000 to his victims of attempted extortion.
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Ha! I was just about to post CBC's news article.

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Yaniv lost his case, the tribunal was satisfied that the salons didn't offer the service Yaniv was asking for, that he targeted members of the South Asian population deliberately, and also that he deliberately manufactured conditions in order to make human rights complaints. He's been ordered to pay $6000 to his victims of attempted extortion.
This is the best thing I've heard about the Human Rights Commissions in awhile. It looks like it would have been better for everyone if they weren't a thing.

He would have tried to extort money from those around him (criminals will criminal) but would have had to face the justice system, instead of this sideshow.

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"... human rights legislation does not require a service provider to wax a type of genitals they are not trained for and have not consented to wax."
Why not just stop at 'not require a service provider to wax who they have not consented to wax'? It should be that simple, so why go on and on with the training comment?

Does it mean that if an esthetician had been trained, that they would be forced?

I think a lack of consent should be enough, but then again, I would be happier if there was not a human rights commission, participating in extortion, and standing between citizens and a fair justice system.
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Old 23rd October 2019, 11:48 PM   #451112  /  #99
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Why not just stop at 'not require a service provider to wax who they have not consented to wax'? It should be that simple, so why go on and on with the training comment?

Does it mean that if an esthetician had been trained, that they would be forced?

I think a lack of consent should be enough, but then again, I would be happier if there was not a human rights commission, participating in extortion, and standing between citizens and a fair justice system.

One of Yaniv's complaints was against a woman who refused an arm/leg wax. The Member commented that unlike gentials, there's not a lot of difference between waxing the arm hair of a man vs a woman. However that complaint was dismissed because it was made in bad faith.



The ruling focussed very much on the motivations Yaniv and didn't even remotely touch upon whether women are allowed to recognise male people as male even if they identify as women. It's possible that with a different respondent, white native English speaker, who was trained in male genital waxing the ruling would have been very different.
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The ruling focussed very much on the motivations Yaniv and didn't even remotely touch upon whether women are allowed to recognise male people as male even if they identify as women. It's possible that with a different respondent, white native English speaker, who was trained in male genital waxing the ruling would have been very different.
Ya. Men and women aren't allowed to identify others as men or women, or to treat others as men or women.

Paradoxically, however, they are welcome to treat themselves as either, and the court systems and governments have to accommodate them.

Maybe someone should pin up some signs around saying 'Trans people are right about women', or 'Women are right about trans people'...

There were signs of that nature put up recently, saying 'Islam is right about women', and without knowing who put the signs up or why, it was hilarious to watch various people tiptoe around their outrage, with no-one addressing the question of whether Islam IS right about women.

It's clumsy and innefective when twisted around the trans issue, but that kind of trolling might be the only way to correct this garbage. I kind of thought Yaniv WAS trolling at first (until listening to him speak for himself)
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