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Old 15th January 2019, 08:33 PM   #442953  /  #26
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did jiffy just fuck us all out of existence
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Old 15th January 2019, 10:44 PM   #442997  /  #27
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Old 16th June 2019, 07:06 AM   #448831  /  #28
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Old 16th June 2019, 07:12 AM   #448832  /  #29
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Oh, look who just finished his first year law exams; how are you mate?
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Old 16th June 2019, 07:30 AM   #448841  /  #30
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Second year! But I am not sure if I passed the last exam.

I am good, physically mentally and perhaps even spiritually

What about you, whats new here, who has been at the bottom of the totem pole in my abscense?
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Old 16th June 2019, 07:34 AM   #448843  /  #31
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Second year! But I am not sure if I passed the last exam.

I am good, physically mentally and perhaps even spiritually

What about you, whats new here, who has been at the bottom of the totem pole in my abscense?
you were never at the bottom!


Nice job on your successes.


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Old 16th June 2019, 07:35 AM   #448844  /  #32
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maybe Jerome though.. :p
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Old 16th June 2019, 07:48 AM   #448845  /  #33
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Hello! Good to see you! Congrats on 2nd year! How many years to go?
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Old 16th June 2019, 07:52 AM   #448846  /  #34
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Ah yes, Jerome, of course

I have 2.5 years left
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Old 16th June 2019, 08:05 AM   #448847  /  #35
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Ah yes, Jerome, of course

I have 2.5 years left
what will happen after 2.5 years?
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Old 16th June 2019, 08:13 AM   #448848  /  #36
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I was thinking of going the judge/prosecutor route but Ill never have the grades for it. But I want to work with within a courtroom so that leaves lawyer.
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Old 16th June 2019, 08:29 AM   #448851  /  #37
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I was thinking of going the judge/prosecutor route but Ill never have the grades for it. But I want to work with within a courtroom so that leaves lawyer.



I have a friend who is a lawyer in Sweden. He works doing something with immigration and the U.N. He seems to like the work.




In other news, Jiffy found a girl. Apparently he didn't even have to use chloroform.
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Old 16th June 2019, 08:34 AM   #448853  /  #38
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How strong is your case regarding the second statement?
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Old 16th June 2019, 08:34 AM   #448854  /  #39
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I was thinking of going the judge/prosecutor route but Ill never have the grades for it. But I want to work with within a courtroom so that leaves lawyer.
maybe later you can go the judge route


lawyer is still pretty cool
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Old 16th June 2019, 08:36 AM   #448857  /  #40
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How strong is your case regarding the second statement?

Rache posted a picture where she appeared to be conscious.
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Old 16th June 2019, 09:00 AM   #448863  /  #41
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I was thinking of going the judge/prosecutor route but Ill never have the grades for it. But I want to work with within a courtroom so that leaves lawyer.
maybe later you can go the judge route


lawyer is still pretty cool
That is an alternative yes, and a benefit with being a lawyer is that you are not forced into a line of reasoning. While the judge is bound by "how the law should be interpreted, and a prosecutor is bound by the action of the perpetrator, a lawyer has a legal obligation to all in his or her power in the interest of his or hers client.


So there is often different routes of argumentation that can be taken for a lawyer.

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Rache posted a picture where she appeared to be conscious.
Huh, my eyebrows are elevated in suprise
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Old 16th June 2019, 09:17 AM   #448865  /  #42
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I was thinking of going the judge/prosecutor route but Ill never have the grades for it. But I want to work with within a courtroom so that leaves lawyer.
maybe later you can go the judge route


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That is an alternative yes, and a benefit with being a lawyer is that you are not forced into a line of reasoning.
sounds almost better. The rules can be bent..
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Old 16th June 2019, 09:18 AM   #448867  /  #43
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How strong is your case regarding the second statement?

Rache posted a picture where she appeared to be conscious.
Rach is more than conscious. She's angry!
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Old 16th June 2019, 09:20 AM   #448868  /  #44
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Yes, it adds a strategic element that excites me
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Old 16th June 2019, 09:52 AM   #448872  /  #45
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do courts in Sweden follow the inquisitorial model like most of Europe, or the British-style adversarial model?
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Old 16th June 2019, 12:46 PM   #448880  /  #46
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Old 16th June 2019, 05:43 PM   #448882  /  #47
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Second year! But I am not sure if I passed the last exam.

I am good, physically mentally and perhaps even spiritually

What about you, whats new here, who has been at the bottom of the totem pole in my abscense?
you were never at the bottom!


Nice job on your successes.


You are missed.
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Old 16th June 2019, 07:24 PM   #448885  /  #48
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In Sweden its the prosecuter that is in charge of the investigation. A prosecutor is only involved when a crime has been commited. The judge has a strict responsibility to rule as the law is to be interpreted.

"Crime law" should not be confused with what I think is called "civil law", this is where most contract disputes are handled, and also disputes of damages caused by reckless behavior that isn't criminal.

Within "civil law" one has to differentiate between where there is "contractual freedom" and where there isn't "contractual freedom". If there is contractual freedom two parties can agree on whatever terms they see fit and also, if a dispute were to arise, solve it in a way that wouldn't be in line with the law.

A judge deciding in a case regarding a subject that falls within contractual freedom CANNOT USE HIS OWN KNOWLEDGE ON THE SUBJECT MATTER. For instance, a judge in a case regarding wether a company has made a bathroom according to the deal with the customer can solve the problem partly by looking at field specific guidelines, IF THE GYUDELINES IS PRESENTED AS EVIDENCE.

Say that the guidelines is presented as evidence and the judge makes a ruling. The same judge later gets another dispute regarding the same subject BUT THE GUIDELINES ARE NOT PRESENTED AS EVIDENCE. In the later case the judge has to do everything in his power to forget what he knows about them, he cannot base his ruling on them.


This I think explains the judge duty in civil law, he is the decider but the parties creates the frame within where the judge can operate.


Then there is a small section of civil law where there is a need to enforce the correct ruling of the law, and "contractual freedom" doesn't exist. For instance family law, employee safety and rights.
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Old 16th June 2019, 10:41 PM   #448895  /  #49
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Old 16th June 2019, 11:52 PM   #448899  /  #50
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