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Old 16th May 2017, 02:39 AM   #399861  /  #26
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I still don't get it even with bro d's teknikal expl(uh) ination
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Old 16th May 2017, 02:39 AM   #399862  /  #27
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Why would you say voiced differently?
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Old 16th May 2017, 02:40 AM   #399863  /  #28
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I mean say "voiced", then say "un", then say unvoiced
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Old 16th May 2017, 02:42 AM   #399867  /  #29
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It's why I like math. Un strictly modifies voiced, you don't change it to unvoiced now = whatever the fuck bro d was talking about
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Old 16th May 2017, 02:43 AM   #399868  /  #30
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Old 16th May 2017, 02:55 AM   #399878  /  #31
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Iceland is curious.
In English, long ago, it was possible to write a "th" with a single letter.

IIRC it was þ for the unvoiced "th" ("thing", "bath") and ð for the voiced "th" ("this", "bathe").

(I þink we should bring ðese letters back.)

Ðese letters still exist in Icelandic.

("Ð" is the upper case version of "ð".)
I guess what I don't understand is why Denmark, Norway and Sweden don't have the th sound(s) (except for that Sami-homeland looking area), but Iceland does? It's a North Germanic language, and is supposed to be closely related to Norwegian. Iceland was colonized by Vikings and their gaelic slaves...hmmm.

Maybe in a colonizing situation, the subjugated population maintains more cultural integrity than in a situation where slaves are brought back to the homeland.
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Old 16th May 2017, 03:18 AM   #399894  /  #32
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I thought f vs v was the non-fricative vs fricative
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Old 16th May 2017, 03:33 AM   #399901  /  #33
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Does a distinction exist if it's unnamed?

Thank God we don't let New Yorkers near dictionaries re their barbaric insertion, removal or relocating of the sound of 'r' in words like idea.
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Old 16th May 2017, 03:41 AM   #399905  /  #34
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Old 16th May 2017, 05:16 AM   #399906  /  #35
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Voiced, unvoiced, soft, strong, most of the examples use the same th sound
It's like the difference between f (unvoiced) and v (voiced).
Hmmm f and v pronunciation is much clearer cut (to me) than the 'th'

isn't the difference in any 'th' sounds just laziness on the part of the speaker?

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Old 16th May 2017, 04:14 PM   #399940  /  #36
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Old 16th May 2017, 04:31 PM   #399944  /  #37
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I still don't get it even with bro d's teknikal expl(uh) ination
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Why would you say voiced differently?
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I mean say "voiced", then say "un", then say unvoiced
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It's why I like math. Un strictly modifies voiced, you don't change it to unvoiced now = whatever the fuck bro d was talking about
You're just trolling, right? Hard to make any sense of your objections otherwise.
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Old 16th May 2017, 04:32 PM   #399945  /  #38
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I thought f vs v was the non-fricative vs fricative
Aren't they both fricative?
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Old 16th May 2017, 04:39 PM   #399946  /  #39
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Voiced, unvoiced, soft, strong, most of the examples use the same th sound
It's like the difference between f (unvoiced) and v (voiced).
Hmmm f and v pronunciation is much clearer cut (to me) than the 'th'

isn't the difference in any 'th' sounds just laziness on the part of the speaker?
Not really. Having those two different 'th' sounds is pretty much Standard and Official and Proper and all that sort of thing. Most 'th' words would sound really weird if you substituted voiced for unvoiced or vice-versa.
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Old 16th May 2017, 10:47 PM   #399983  /  #40
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with the stronger 'th' your tongue tip vibrates against your teeth

as Bro D says, this is similar to what happens with 'v'
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Old 17th May 2017, 12:02 AM   #399995  /  #41
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is that just because you have a mouth full of chippies
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Old 17th May 2017, 12:15 AM   #399997  /  #42
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Old 17th May 2017, 12:17 AM   #399998  /  #43
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Old 17th May 2017, 03:11 AM   #400006  /  #44
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Why would you say voiced differently?
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I mean say "voiced", then say "un", then say unvoiced
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It's why I like math. Un strictly modifies voiced, you don't change it to unvoiced now = whatever the fuck bro d was talking about
You're just trolling, right? Hard to make any sense of your objections otherwise.
Really?
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Old 17th May 2017, 11:49 AM   #400069  /  #45
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You didn't seriously imagine that I was using the words "voiced" and "unvoiced" as examples, did you? (That kind of misunderstanding is surprising from you.) Of course the "v" is voiced in both of those words.

Think of the difference between the f in "fast" and the v in "vast". That's exactly the difference between the two types of "th".

A typical "f" (like in "fast") is unvoiced, as is the "th" in "think" or "bath".

A typical "v" (like in "vast") is voiced, as is the "th" in "this" or "bathe".
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Old 18th May 2017, 12:44 AM   #400120  /  #46
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Mr b's surname (English, there's a village over there same name) has a 'th' in the middle which is spoken as a 'd'.
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Old 18th May 2017, 01:21 PM   #400263  /  #47
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There's likely a queen somewhere what coordinated that culturally I'd bet.
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Old 20th May 2017, 04:17 AM   #400536  /  #48
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this article is generally accurate except for item 20, which is more recognisably Kiwi vernacular, and item 22 for which there are a multitude of regional variations such as swimmers, bathers, speedos and budgie smugglers http://mentalfloss.com/article/61847...an-slang-terms

re item 13: other terms with which players should exercise care include thongs and rubbers
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Old 20th May 2017, 02:26 PM   #400601  /  #50
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2 things i don't understand there:

- why do the bricks flip the second time?

- why do people film stuff in portrait?
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