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Old 5th July 2018, 11:21 PM   #433816  /  #51
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Ravens have wedge shaped tails - the central feathers are longer. Crows have even tails - they spread like a fan when in flight.

Ravens' flight feathers tend to curve up at the ends, crows' feathers don't.

Ravens often have a 'beard', crows don't.

Ravens and crows have very different calls. If it sounds like 'caw', it's a crow. If it sounds hoarse and more like 'cronk' it's a raven. Both make a lot of other sounds, and both will mimic odd sounds they pick up.

But crows are very smart birds indeed, so intellect won't help you tell the difference.

Blackbirds are the size of slender robins and they sing quite prettily.

Meanwhile, my raven family has finished feeding their kids, or at least the kids now fly with the parents instead of hanging out yelling in my tree.
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Old 5th July 2018, 11:40 PM   #433817  /  #52
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Old 6th July 2018, 12:40 AM   #433820  /  #53
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ETA: You might be seeing larger numbers of normally southern birds, too. Many bird species are expanding their territories northward as climate change progresses.
Fucking immigrants...when does it fucking end?

That may be it. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a local raven (huge size, black bird) and a crow from the south. Not with any certainty, anyway. We have been getting more southern species around that area, so it may be that we have been infiltrated by a stupider black-coloured bird than I am accostomed to.

I suppose it's fair play though. Most animals are incapable of respecting political or cultural boundaries...

Scent boundaries now, they respect that. Maybe Trump should piss on the boarder...
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Old 6th July 2018, 04:56 PM   #433842  /  #54
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I think you're safe, no mr posters are farmers.

We used to have bitter old fishermen like this. They would harass or kill seals and cormorants because they believed they were responsible for the near extinction of codfish in Canadian waters.
Similarly, I found an old guy who ran a trout hatchery, who had been having trouble with some sort of large bird. He was bothered especially by the fact that this big ugly (blue heron?) fucker had been killing lots of fish which were too big to eat. In any case, many were left on the ground with heron-shaped holes in them.

I went there with the family one summer. Camping, biking and fishing in his ponds. He had killed and strung up the heron in a tree. He explained that he had killed several over the years, but they always stayed around. After crucifying this one, he hadn't seen one in a week.

Later, I learned that he had been charged with some sort of animal/environmental charges connected to that. A few years later, I put together that it was probably (very likely) my ex who had finked him out over it.

I don't know where he is now, probably dead (he was pretty old) but I know the fish hatchery is no longer operating.
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Old 6th July 2018, 05:03 PM   #433843  /  #55
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ETA: You might be seeing larger numbers of normally southern birds, too. Many bird species are expanding their territories northward as climate change progresses.
Fucking immigrants...when does it fucking end?

That may be it. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a local raven (huge size, black bird) and a crow from the south. Not with any certainty, anyway. We have been getting more southern species around that area, so it may be that we have been infiltrated by a stupider black-coloured bird than I am accostomed to.

I suppose it's fair play though. Most animals are incapable of respecting political or cultural boundaries...

Scent boundaries now, they respect that. Maybe Trump should piss on the boarder...
Why are so many excited about Trump's urine? Just because he uses it as hair colour, and whore-lubricant, doesn't make him a bad person.

Heck - we can applaud whores and claim that whoring is ethically defensible, so why is it so hard to see that John's must also be ethically defensible?

And piss won't build him a wall, unless it's REALLY cold. He needs a wall.

Probably a northern one, too. He can do the southern, small one for practice.
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Old 25th September 2018, 07:17 AM   #437930  /  #56
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14 days' gaol and a $2500 fine amounts for killing 406 wedge-tailed eagles amounts to less than 50 minutes and just over $6 a bird http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-2...ailed/10298426
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Old 25th September 2018, 10:47 AM   #437935  /  #57
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why are the fines non-large
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Old 25th September 2018, 12:42 PM   #437936  /  #58
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Probably because he was the one who reported what was going on.

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Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (DELWP) prosecutor Chrisanthi Paganis told the Sale Magistrates' Court that Silvester alerted authorities to the deaths in May 2018, one month after he stopped working at the farm due to an argument with his boss, landowner John Auer.

Silvester provided investigators with two diaries detailing the methods used and a hand-drawn map showing where the eagle carcasses were hidden and where the chemicals were stored.

Silvester also named others involved.

The prosecutor told the court other people were being investigated over the killings but had not been charged.

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Ms Paganis told the court three different chemicals were used to kill the eagles, but most of the eagle deaths were caused by the chemical Lannate.

"John Auer showed him how to do it by injecting the substances into the necks of lambs," Ms Paganis told the court.

Lannate caused the eagles to die within 30 minutes of feeding on the sheep and lamb carcasses, the court heard.
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Old 25th September 2018, 01:39 PM   #437937  /  #59
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So why are the others not charged yet?
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Old 25th September 2018, 01:55 PM   #437938  /  #60
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I don't know but there is a suggestion in the article that they sped up his prosecution because he was a flight risk - he's a Kiwi and could have absconded back to New Zealand. Also it seems he might be cooperating with DELWP and the police - or might have been until he got the rude shock of discovering he was getting a custodial sentence
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Mr Silvester asked to address the magistrate and said: "[The] Wildlife [department] have lied, they told me it would only be a fine. I just want to put this behind me and go home."
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Old 25th September 2018, 02:23 PM   #437939  /  #61
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The government lying? Nooo
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