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Old 3rd August 2015, 02:45 AM   #277996  /  #276
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Being informed requires time, attention and research.
And not generally relying on unconfirmed or otherwise unprovable hearsay from "experts" at "conventions" where people aren't laughed out of the room when discussing a temporary rise in security following a terrorist act.

You're right, I agree.
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Old 3rd August 2015, 02:49 AM   #277997  /  #277
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She is a well researched author you dolt. She actually did the heavy lifting, she did the actual research, she did the actual travel to locations where the story was and is happening.

She is not some tumbler sjw, she is a real feminist with real smarts and real sourced research.
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Old 3rd August 2015, 02:59 AM   #277999  /  #278
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She is a well researched author you dolt. She actually did the heavy lifting, she did the actual research, she did the actual travel to locations where the story was and is happening.

She is not some tumbler sjw, she is a real feminist with real smarts and real sourced research.
Maybe in regards to feminism and womens' issues, sure. But you're posting bits about censorship and government conspiracies, which are a far cry from that field.

And in regards to the latter...

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Writing in The Atlantic in January 2013, law and business professor Mark Nuckols declared, "In her various books, articles, and public speeches, Wolf has demonstrated recurring disregard for the historical record and consistently mutilated the truth with selective and ultimately deceptive use of her sources. ... In particular, Nuckols argued, "Naomi Wolf has for many years now been claiming that a fascist coup in America is imminent. Most recently in The Guardian she alleged, with no substantiation, that the U.S. government and big American banks are conspiring to impose a 'totally integrated corporate-state repression of dissent.'
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Vox journalist Max Fisher urged Wolf's readers "to understand the distinction between her earlier work, which rose on its merits, and her newer conspiracy theories, which are unhinged, damaging, and dangerous."
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Charles C. W. Cooke observed at the National Review Online, "Over the last eight years, Naomi Wolf has written hysterically about coups and about vaginas and about little else besides. She has repeatedly insisted that the country is on the verge of martial law, and transmogrified every threat—both pronounced and overhyped—into a government-led plot to establish a dictatorship. She has made prediction after prediction that has simply not come to pass. Hers are not sober and sensible forecasts of runaway human nature, institutional atrophy, and constitutional decline, but psychedelic fever-dreams that are more typically suited to the InfoWars crowd.
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But you're not really interested in talking about how many of these presentations and lectures at these "conferences" by "qualified / reputable" individuals are anything but qualified or reputable in the field they are espousing at these nutjob conferences that are anything but qualified and reputable themselves, are you?
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Old 3rd August 2015, 03:09 AM   #278001  /  #279
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lol @ instead of hearing her you went and looked for attacks against her.

Do you think it is untrue that the feds have been supply military equipment to local police?
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Old 3rd August 2015, 03:16 AM   #278003  /  #280
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lol @ instead of hearing her you went and looked for attacks against her.
Jerome, I'm going to level with you.

I am highly paranoid about any government or authority.
I believe the official story is often a bunch of hogwash.
Money and corporate interests dominate and will always come first in regards to the government over the needs of the populace.
Many of these deals and moves take place in very shady ways, in very opaque business deals that we rarely if ever find out the true ramifications of.
The government, as a subsidy of these corporate interests, has control of most media outlets and continues to pass legislation to further their grasp over maintaining a steady propaganda machine.

Furthermore I believe that the people in power would like to retain their power and will do anything within their control to maintain it.
This includes things such as militarizing a police force, creating false social dilemmas, and false flag operations in order to keep us distracted from our enemy.



But I've listened to a lot of "experts" peddle hogwash narrations of "true" events on everything from UFOs to FEMA death camps.

And frankly, I know an unqualified source and a load of hogwash when I see one.

And this woman has never been in the position to qualitatively speak about things such as government surveillance or mass media control in any meaningful "insider" fashion.

If she ever got close, she would have been silenced. You and I both know the government is not above that.
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Now stop seeing me as a "brainwashed sheeple" and start realizing not every conspiracy thing you read is fucking accurate
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Old 3rd August 2015, 03:19 AM   #278005  /  #282
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Basically you are a misogynist. That is the only way I can see you not considering Naomi Wolf a qualified person.

It is mostly a compilation of already well know facts reported in the mainstream news. She just goes more in depth with her research.
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Old 3rd August 2015, 03:22 AM   #278006  /  #283
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The rest of the world know fox news America are biasing their stories so much in America that they are in fact false.

The rest of the world also knows that Murdoch has a political agenda that all of his power is directed towards furthering. The sane sensible people (a minority?) simply understand that 'Andrew Bolt" and all the shock jock are the leading edge and which side the media they are viewing comes down on.

Look, we know Abbott and the Australian people have accepted a false view of 'boat people' refugees. So much so that the opposition, has had to accept the same 'story' to have a chance to get elected.

None of this is conspiracy theory because it is all out in the open to anyone who is not a scared little white guy.
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Old 3rd August 2015, 03:23 AM   #278007  /  #284
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Basically you are a misogynist. That is the only way I can see you not considering Naomi Wolf a qualified person.


Just stop for a second and look at your own post.

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It is mostly a compilation of already well know facts reported in the mainstream news. She just goes more in depth with her research.
Then I suppose the other sources I cited are also misogynists?
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Old 3rd August 2015, 03:40 AM   #278009  /  #285
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Naomi Wolf, very sadly, really lost her way quite a few years ago.

Seriously, Jerome. ISIS members have beheaded people. There are no 'crisis actors'.
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Old 3rd August 2015, 03:46 AM   #278010  /  #286
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Don't disagree with him, Bor, or you'll be labeled a misogynist because he's an avid SJW.
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Seriously, Jerome. ISIS members have beheaded people. There are no 'crisis actors'.
We created ISIS, they are the same guys we funded and supplied to overthrow Libya, then moved them to overthrow Syria, but that didn't work.
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Truth bombs are upsetting to people ...
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Naomi Wolf, very sadly, really lost her way quite a few years ago.
As if the daughter of holocaust survivors wouldn't know what a fascist state looks like ...
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Money and corporate interests dominate and will always come first in regards to the government over the needs of the populace.
Many of these deals and moves take place in very shady ways, in very opaque business deals that we rarely if ever find out the true ramifications of.



I sense the far right and the far left might actually be coming to the same conclusion and we might get a new middle in another generation.
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Old 3rd August 2015, 08:28 PM   #278125  /  #295
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1990 National Defense Restoration Act allows DOD to give surplus military equipment to local law enforcement for the War On Drugs.

1990 Base Closure and Realignment Act sets out the procedure for closing bases for decades to come.

Seemed like a good idea at the time = P
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heh, just looked it up, sounds about right

The crazy thing to me is the emotional involvement people get over political parties, particularly when they get bent over on a consistent basis.

For example, Obama doubled down on Bush policies, but the idiot class still thinks they are different administrations.
It ends this year. I watched season 1, liked it, and decided to wait for it to complete and then watch it all.



There's a twist at the end when the main character dies.
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Now stop seeing me as a "brainwashed sheeple" and start realizing not every conspiracy thing you read is fucking accurate
omg that is so what they want you to think
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Now stop seeing me as a "brainwashed sheeple" and start realizing not every conspiracy thing you read is fucking accurate
omg that is so what they want you to think
As an aside, how are those investigations going into those high level elite pedophile rings?

There wouldn't be a conspiracy to keep an investigation from happening, would there be?
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