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Old 21st January 2012, 07:54 AM   #5757  /  #26
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Jesus christ I am the most conservative member.
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Yeah but that he is still left of centre.
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Old 21st January 2012, 12:48 PM   #5878  /  #27
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Yeah but that he is still left of centre.
Hmmm so the thing doesn't work?
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Old 21st January 2012, 01:31 PM   #5943  /  #28
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I didn't save the numbers, but I did save my Political Compass chart.



Just like I said, pretty darn close to Milton Friedman. And way to the right of Super or Jerome.
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Old 21st January 2012, 02:13 PM   #5990  /  #29
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Yeah but that he is still left of centre.
Hmmm so the thing doesn't work?
Or Jerome isn't as libertarian/right wing as he pretends to be.

Also I'm not as libertarian as the graph made out. I answered that I wanted government to regulate business heavily. And I am generally in favour of regulation.
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Old 21st January 2012, 04:30 PM   #6045  /  #30
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Or Jerome isn't as libertarian/right wing as he pretends to be.
Or people read what I write thru meme glasses and not what I am actually saying.
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Old 21st January 2012, 04:33 PM   #6046  /  #31
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Or Jerome isn't as libertarian/right wing as he pretends to be.
Or people read what I write thru meme glasses and not what I am actually saying.
Or what you write and what you mean may not always line up very well. Especially on weekend nights. :p
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Old 21st January 2012, 04:34 PM   #6047  /  #32
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Old 21st January 2012, 04:39 PM   #6051  /  #33
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I guess meme glasses are like beer goggles... with the difference that beer is much tastier than memes.
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Old 21st January 2012, 04:44 PM   #6055  /  #34
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I try to get past the crappy wording of the questions but give up.
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Old 21st January 2012, 04:59 PM   #6061  /  #35
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Old 22nd January 2012, 05:22 AM   #6271  /  #36
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Old 22nd January 2012, 05:27 AM   #6275  /  #37
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Yeah, it's a weird test. An alarming number of the questions don't have any answer that correlates to my actual political beliefs. And the closest of four possibles misrepresents those beliefs.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 05:32 AM   #6277  /  #38
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I loathe that political compass, with all due respect. Left is libertarian, Right is authoritarian.
Not as proposed by the American Libertarian party it isn't.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 07:24 AM   #6330  /  #39
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Just like I said, pretty darn close to Milton Friedman. And way to the right of Super or Jerome.
Conservative spotted itt!!!
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Old 22nd January 2012, 12:12 PM   #6410  /  #40
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Old 22nd January 2012, 02:24 PM   #6472  /  #41
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Old 22nd January 2012, 02:31 PM   #6473  /  #42
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Without property rights you have no real rights.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 02:34 PM   #6474  /  #43
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Old 22nd January 2012, 06:14 PM   #6496  /  #44
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Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.
That one is tough.
I disagreed with that one, because it isn't so much tough as seriously lacking in nuance.

Land shouldn't be hoarded in large quantities by the wealthy to the point where no one else can get land.

Land shouldn't be prohibitively hard to acquire. If you want or need some land, you should be able to afford to get some, preferably as much as you need.

People and industries and businesses have widely diverse needs for land. A family needs enough to build shelter on and to garden if they want to do that. A family restaurant needs enough room to build and run the restaurant. A farm family needs acreage on which to plant and raise animals. A stock brokerage needs enough land to put up an adequate building for its employees and offices. An industry such as pulp and paper needs enough acreage to farm trees, which could be a lot.

Land use or the need for land can change. families move, industries fail or become redundant, businesses change.

If you remove the ability to buy and sell land, how do you decide who gets land? Do you go to a process of government allotments? You apply for land and some bureaucrat decides whether you get it or not?

There's actually an element of that method available in Canada. Forestry operations may own land, or they may acquire rights to harvest wood on Crown lands. Individuals may also apply to build hunting/fishing camps on Crown land.

In Canada's early days, land was often granted directly by the Crown to settlers, and that land was theirs to sell or use thereafter.

I think, flawed as it is, we need to retain the right to buy and sell land.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 08:05 PM   #6518  /  #45
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Owning land makes it much more likely that the owner will make an effort to protect it from others' abuse.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:13 PM   #6537  /  #46
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Owning land makes it much more likely that the owner will make an effort to protect it from others' abuse.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:46 PM   #6546  /  #47
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Owning land makes it much more likely that the owner will make an effort to protect it from others' abuse.
Owning land does not make it more likely that the owner will make any effort to protect it from their own abuse. As someone who lives in a province where an insane amount of clearcutting was done in the last thirty years by both individual owners and mega forestry industrial companies, that fact is horrifyingly obvious.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:51 PM   #6548  /  #48
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Good thing there is more forest today in the world then there was 100 years ago, see, if government doesn't tax and regulate companies into potential poverty with the 'next election' then these companies have incentive to replenish the supply.

Most people/companies are not as greedy as government wants you to think they are.

As it stands now government chooses who gets to rape the environment for a limited time.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:51 PM   #6549  /  #49
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Worse, most of the harvest is for processing out of the country, the trees are reduced to chips here and shipped away to be turned into end products that get shipped back to us at many times the cost of the resource was sold for.
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Old 22nd January 2012, 09:59 PM   #6553  /  #50
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Good thing there is more forest today in the world then there was 100 years ago, see, if government doesn't tax and regulate companies into potential poverty with the 'next election' then these companies have incentive to replenish the supply.

Most people/companies are not as greedy as government wants you to think they are.

As it stands now government chooses who gets to rape the environment for a limited time.
Much of the land clearcut here is not Crown land, but owned by forestry companies or individual woodlot owners. They don't care, it's fat profit. A few industrial harvesters and a small crew of human operators can raze hectares of land in a single day.

And yes, they are pretty damned greedy.

As to your 'more forest in the world today', that's hardly the point. There's more people as well. And the fact that humans even in Mediaeval times were able to devastate the forests is not a positive spin. In France in that period, the demand for charcoal for making stained glass windows was so great that there wasn't enough trees left to fuel much else, and laws were made by the French government to slow the decline of woodlands. Britain was largely deforested for fuel at one point as well. That is not a good thing.
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