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#424369 / #1 |
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Do sports matter?
I was talking about the differences between the sexes, and found that it became very regular for people to say that the performance differences between sexes didn't matter to things like employment.
I think they don't, overall. Individuals should be paid based on the work done, not on sex (or height, or charm, or ability to negotiate salary) I do think, however, that it DOES matter to groups, so the 'gender wage-gap' myth would be affected. Since men, as a group, outperform women in every measurable sports competition I can find (there are only two I could find where women regularly outperform men) I would expect that carries over into every competitive area, such that it should be reflected in average earnings. I mean, I still enjoy watching female competitors, I just don't delude myself into thinking they could compete across the sexes in strength, speed, endurance or shit-talking. So the main question - since men outperform so consistently, does it matter to the average income of the large groups 'women' and 'men'?
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#424370 / #2 |
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Agreed, but imo its not so much that they are born women but instead raised as daughters.
if my daughter wanted to become greta at a sport id do what i could to have her compete against boys. |
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#424371 / #3 | |
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If what you say made sense AT ALL, some athletes would exploit that, and women would be at the top of more sports. The differences are real and biological (there may also be cultural ones)
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#424373 / #4 |
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I realized that, even if what you say is true, you still haven't considered the question. It isn't about 'potential' performance, but about actual performance.
So can you weigh in on the original question? Or did you just want to pop in any point out how you don't believe in biology?
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#424380 / #7 |
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I like watching women running more than men. Weird thing - in still photography, they often look worse to me, but in motion, they just look like they are doing it 'right'.
I watched the Nike 2h marathon attempt, and it just looked...I don't know...robotic. My favourite professional runners are mostly female, maybe because of this.
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#424397 / #9 |
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I think your categories are too large to generalize. To really get at the heart of sports performance, you have to look at DNA. For example, there are populations where the females could easily outrun the males of other populations. It's all about what everyone was doing to survive 3 to 10k years ago, what environment they lived in and what people inherited.
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#424399 / #10 | |
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I love running. Learning to enjoy it, and enjoying it changed my life.
Changed my outlook on the value of athletics, too. Have you an opinion on the original question? Or are you just hinting that you want to join me on my run today? Quote:
Men outperform women in EVERY athletic endeavour (except maybe for endurance swim) Since it is so consistent and predictable that they win the overwhelming number of competitions, it makes sense to me that in a large sample, men would outperform women in earning, as well. I don't think this means they should be paid differently, just that they will end up 'winning' high salaried positions and earnings more often if they are men. Which female populations regularly outperform male populations? I would be VERY interested to see it. Africans seem to be the fastest women around, but they still fall a bit behind men everywhere...
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#424401 / #11 | |
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#424412 / #13 | |
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#424413 / #14 |
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Oh and since we're talking sports I caught a recent Juventus v Real Madrid game and after seeing a very stellar bicycle kick goal I understand why everyone hates Ronaldo
Motherfucker made it look like he was at practice
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#424414 / #15 |
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They have football for women now would you believe
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#424420 / #16 |
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As a US National, yes, and let's move on about the men's team
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#424421 / #17 | ||
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Also, its been shown women don't negotiate or demand pay raises as well or as often as men. That is a learned social behavior that can change. Men tend to continue to keep in touch with fraternity brothers and others in their social networks and help each other out. Women don't. Another behavior that can change. It is a problem and pressure need to be applied in order to keep focusing on correcting it but I see progress on all fronts.
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#424431 / #18 |
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all sport is essentially fascism
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It's my considered opinion that most people run wrong. MAF would direct most to run most of their miles slower (as a clear example)
I get it though...as long as you can get your cardio somehow, and as long as it is effective at improving your heart, that's the big important one. I've been playing with tracking 'heartbeats per kilometer' as a metric which could show improved cardiac function/efficiency. I'm not good enough with API's, math or spreadsheets though ![]() Quote:
However, most people can see clearly that the males are more competitive (which is the point I was making) So I think it's fine to pay them the same, but it would be the viewers who really decided. Have you seen Fallon Fox? What do you think of their domination of female MMA? Quote:
It seems there is a big conflict there... I agree that women are choosing to earn less. It is because they have choice in the matter. It's a good choice usually, as far as I can see, but the opposite of profitable.
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#424462 / #23 | |
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Do you think the HUGE differences shown in sport when looking at mens vs womens performance is a difference which will show in earnings/work performance across the same groups? In other words, are these sports differences real enough to make a difference in statistical income? Individually I don't think so, but as groups...well, men are outpacing women at just about everything they do, as far as strength, speed and endurance. It only stands to reason that (aside from those other differences you mentioned) this would carry over into other areas of competition, like capitalism. Of course women are making different choices around career, which will also have an effect. I hope we don't (as a society) make the correction so they can work more...I hope it goes the other way so more of us can work less, but that isn't really relevant at all to the main question. Maybe it's clearer to ask this way...With men being stronger, faster, and capable of greater endurance, why would you think that they should show parity earning-wise?
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Amazon womenz are the best.
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