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Old 30th December 2017, 05:07 AM   #416329  /  #301
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Old 30th December 2017, 05:09 AM   #416330  /  #302
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Old 30th December 2017, 05:10 AM   #416331  /  #303
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lol. It was -14 when the pipes froze if you didn't keep the water running, but this can obviously vary depending on the building.
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Old 30th December 2017, 05:22 AM   #416333  /  #304
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We keep our water pump in an insulated box under the house. If the temp drops below -20 we turn on the heater that also lives in the box.
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Old 30th December 2017, 05:45 AM   #416341  /  #305
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Old 30th December 2017, 05:46 AM   #416342  /  #306
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I've never tried driving in a hail storm. Always been somewhere where I could wait it out.
Our hailstorms are often heavy enough to cause damage to the car and even break windscreens.

I'm trying to offer sympathy here imp.
Guess I'm not very good at it.
I had a friend in Perth shared some images from a hail storm with the average ball being the size of a small child's fist. I was quite amazed
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Old 30th December 2017, 08:51 AM   #416349  /  #307
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Below freezing every once in a while...do pipes actually freeze? I live where every winter there are plenty of -5C minimums but pipes dont freeze afaik

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water will freeze at -5C but where you are the temperature won't be low enough for long enough for the pipes to freeze up completely
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Old 30th December 2017, 03:59 PM   #416367  /  #308
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We're supposed to have our first "hard freeze" here in about a decade. Overnight lows in the 20s F. The Home Depot was filled with people buying insulation for their exposed pipes.
So, explain this to me like I am 5.

Insulation only slows down the rate at which things change temperature.

So couldn't an insulated exterior pipe still freeze? What is keeping the insulation from freezing? And seriously, those cone things for faucets? How is that going to stop them from freezing?

I am dripping them. And yes the exterior pipes are insulated, but the faucets aren't, and that's where the problem is.
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Old 30th December 2017, 03:59 PM   #416368  /  #309
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Old 30th December 2017, 04:02 PM   #416369  /  #310
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Old 30th December 2017, 09:38 PM   #416372  /  #311
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Below freezing every once in a while...do pipes actually freeze? I live where every winter there are plenty of -5C minimums but pipes dont freeze afaik

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Unprotected exposed PVC, yes.
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Old 30th December 2017, 09:42 PM   #416373  /  #312
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te at which things change temperature.

So couldn't an insulated exterior pipe still freeze? What is keeping the insulation from freezing? And seriously, those cone things for faucets? How is that going to stop them from freezing?
Eventually, yeah they'd probably still freeze even with insulation, but it won't stay cold long enough. The water has to completely freeze and expand to rupture the pipe.
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Old 30th December 2017, 09:46 PM   #416374  /  #313
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I would politely suggest there is some confusion between air temperature and ground temperature.

There is a frost line depth?
Would it take longer than one night's cold snap to freeze the ground?
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I would politely suggest there is some confusion between air temperature and ground temperature.

There is a frost line depth?
Would it take longer than one night's cold snap to freeze the ground?
In Southern Texas it's 5". The problem is that it's very common for the pipe to come up out of the ground and go into the side of the house about 3' up. That riser is what needs to be protected. Not sure, but I expect PVC is more brittle than copper or galvanized steel, and yes, PVC is commonly used for plumbing here.
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Old 30th December 2017, 09:57 PM   #416376  /  #315
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I would politely suggest there is some confusion between air temperature and ground temperature.

There is a frost line depth?
Would it take longer than one night's cold snap to freeze the ground?
In Southern Texas it's 5". The problem is that it's very common for the pipe to come up out of the ground and go into the side of the house about 3' up. That riser is what needs to be protected. Not sure, but I expect PVC is more brittle than copper or galvanized steel, and yes, PVC is commonly used for plumbing here.
PVC is here as well and I hope to hell you understand the difference between underground pvc which is not UV protected and above ground outside PVC that has to be UV protected.

As to cold and frozen water expansion ?
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Old 30th December 2017, 10:02 PM   #416377  /  #316
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PVC is here as well and I hope to hell you understand the difference between underground pvc which is not UV protected and above ground outside PVC that has to be UV protected.
I didn't know that. Apparently, the simple fix is to paint it.
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Old 30th December 2017, 10:08 PM   #416378  /  #317
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Old 30th December 2017, 10:23 PM   #416380  /  #318
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PVC is here as well and I hope to hell you understand the difference between underground pvc which is not UV protected and above ground outside PVC that has to be UV protected.
I didn't know that. Apparently, the simple fix is to paint it.


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Old 31st December 2017, 04:25 AM   #416395  /  #319
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te at which things change temperature.

So couldn't an insulated exterior pipe still freeze? What is keeping the insulation from freezing? And seriously, those cone things for faucets? How is that going to stop them from freezing?
Eventually, yeah they'd probably still freeze even with insulation, but it won't stay cold long enough. The water has to completely freeze and expand to rupture the pipe.
I have two outdoor faucets that have galvanized steel pipes coming out of the ground about 18" high next to the house. Both are insulated. But the faucet still freezes if I don't drip it.
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Old 31st December 2017, 10:11 AM   #416404  /  #320
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I've never bothered with the hose bibs. But, of course I didn't bother with the PVC riser until that froze either.
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Old 31st December 2017, 11:08 PM   #416424  /  #321
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Old 31st December 2017, 11:57 PM   #416427  /  #322
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Old 1st January 2018, 04:59 AM   #416470  /  #323
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I have no idea what a hose bib is



Four nights in a row of hard freeze. wtf.
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