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Old 19th April 2018, 07:54 PM   #426358  /  #51
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Old 19th April 2018, 08:03 PM   #426360  /  #52
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Old 20th April 2018, 06:03 AM   #426424  /  #53
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Yeah, I have a very bad taste in my mouth over how we've been disparaged every time we've thrown our hat into the ring.
I'm sure diva may differ with me, but last year I went out of my way to get participation from 8 different communities, only to have CFB backout and force my substitution. Then I lost that first game 'cause one of the players didn't bother to read before posting the last day. Still, they advanced me to a consolation game with diva where the player who lost (where diva won) was advanced instead of her by blatant cheating that the mods agreed was cheating but did nothing about other than rewarding the cheater.
I'm done with MU and especially rounding up players for them from other sites, including diva from TR.
I hope she does well again this year though.
I really can't blame you grit, and I certainly understand and respect your feelings. I never heard that the mods agreed that what dgln was angleshooting but I certainly wld not be surprised if some the mods felt that way but got outvoted or something. they have since clarified the angleshooting rule so that the rules can be applied more specifically? still reads as a bit ambiguous to me but at least they are taking steps to clear things up.

there are going to be some changes from what I understand? I think the rules of the site are likely gonna be enforced a bit more since there seems to be a bit more cohesion. I think the wording for the criteria is gonna change again, and I think dischord will tone it down as far as some pple trying to influence the outcome of the votes. and I certainly hope that there won't be any disparaging comments that are vote impacting just so pple's friends can advance will be closely monitored. at least I hope so.

if you don't feel comfortable sending some1 I understand and will relay the reasons. I just hope you will reconsider in light of the changes.

whatever you decide you know you have my support grit
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Old 20th April 2018, 06:07 AM   #426425  /  #54
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The whole thing is, however, ultimately based in subjectivity. There can't be any objective criteria for who is truly deserving of advancing.
Any time scum wins, surviving scum team should advance 100%.
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Old 20th April 2018, 06:08 AM   #426426  /  #55
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The whole thing is, however, ultimately based in subjectivity. There can't be any objective criteria for who is truly deserving of advancing.
Any time scum wins, surviving scum team should advance 100%.
Actually, make it easy, anyone who satisfies their win condition advances. Very simple.

eta; I can allow for 1-2 wildcards from the losing teams who are subjectively voted to also advance in the early rounds.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 05:56 PM   #426669  /  #56
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The whole thing is, however, ultimately based in subjectivity. There can't be any objective criteria for who is truly deserving of advancing.
Any time scum wins, surviving scum team should advance 100%.
I kind of agree with this since scum have a much harder wc to achieve than town especially in a mountainous.

anyhoo, if mantisdreamz agrees to represent mindromp will you guys be okay with that?
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Old 23rd April 2018, 05:59 PM   #426670  /  #57
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Doesn't mountainous skew scumsided? It used to.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 06:00 PM   #426673  /  #58
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Yes. Also, I have immediate space for a sub here, diva, if you or Mantis like.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 08:06 PM   #426687  /  #59
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Doesn't mountainous skew scumsided? It used to.
I thought so too, but I had talked to quadz on ms and they crunched the numbers and town win at 58%. I think it largely depends on the playerlist and town synergy tho.

@grit - is that a go for mantis? if so I will message her and ask her if she wants to sign up. if not she can be a the tr back-up. if she is repping we will likely need to send in a back up.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 08:19 PM   #426688  /  #60
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Doesn't mountainous skew scumsided? It used to.
I thought so too, but I had talked to quadz on ms and they crunched the numbers and town win at 58%. I think it largely depends on the playerlist and town synergy tho.

@grit - is that a go for mantis? if so I will message her and ask her if she wants to sign up. if not she can be a the tr back-up. if she is repping we will likely need to send in a back up.
Yes, Mantis can rep MR. I don't think anyone will object. Last year we had nacho go for rationalskepticism, but I don't think they've had a game all year, so that's likely out this time. Gonzo's site may be an option - that's what I subbed in for last year. Did MafiaScum finally resolve in favour of participation?

I'm out for rounding up other boards to participate, and I won't again unless I know for sure MU is going to even try to be fair about it. Advancing the very player who even inadvertently cheated amidst multiple players who specifically asked for an out and/or a do-over is just the capstone of what MR has faced EVERY year with the 'championship'. Thingyman KNOWS this and it's been a large part of why they've 'tried' to fix things every year since the bloody thing started.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 09:18 PM   #426695  /  #61
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I think MS is even more against the idea than MR. At least on terms of "official" participation
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Old 23rd April 2018, 09:41 PM   #426697  /  #62
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I knew they had been, but last year Thingy thought they were close to working things out. But that's why we signed on diva from TR and nacho from Ratskep, 'cause they couldn't from MS.
Then from 451 it sounds like something sort of blew up at MS since then.
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Old 23rd April 2018, 10:07 PM   #426698  /  #63
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I wouldn't say anything blew up but the site administration was never anything more than cooly reluctant to have MS players involved.
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Old 24th April 2018, 01:22 AM   #426717  /  #64
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tboner blatantly told thing when he started the thread on ms about it to stop trying to solicit on their site, cos apparently there was some confusion about the difference between an invitation (which ms has accepted before) and solicitation.

I think the final decision had to do with a tournament that year on mtg where there was a giant blowup on that site that made the game toxic among ms players.

I think last year was just rollover from that.

@grit - totally respect your decision to not put effort in rallying pple up.
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Old 24th April 2018, 02:07 AM   #426729  /  #65
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Yes. Also, I have immediate space for a sub here, diva, if you or Mantis like.
I will sub spruce.. if you still need? I didn't realize another game was going so soon!

I also saw that TW might go for the MU thing too. In which I do think he would be better as scum. Either or!
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Old 24th April 2018, 02:09 AM   #426730  /  #66
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It's ok, Mantis. Thanks. diva agreed to sub but was then immediately kilt. MR is a tough crowd.
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Old 24th April 2018, 03:18 PM   #426781  /  #67
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good luck with champs diva

also lol that sub slot dying immediately

came over here to check it out and its donezo
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Old 24th April 2018, 03:20 PM   #426782  /  #68
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Doesn't mountainous skew scumsided? It used to.
I thought so too, but I had talked to quadz on ms and they crunched the numbers and town win at 58%. I think it largely depends on the playerlist and town synergy tho.

@grit - is that a go for mantis? if so I will message her and ask her if she wants to sign up. if not she can be a the tr back-up. if she is repping we will likely need to send in a back up.
i think mountainous 11:2 is town sided

which as far as i know is what they run on MS

mu ran 12:3 for champs last year which is probably fairer (14:3 is also possible, but hasnt been run on MU iirc)
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Old 24th April 2018, 03:41 PM   #426787  /  #69
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Old 24th April 2018, 04:07 PM   #426795  /  #70
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Ew 11:2 should be 9:2 or 11:3
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Old 24th April 2018, 07:29 PM   #426805  /  #71
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The best mountainous is when you don't tell the players it's mountainous.
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Old 24th April 2018, 08:23 PM   #426806  /  #72
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good luck with champs diva

also lol that sub slot dying immediately

came over here to check it out and its donezo
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Old 25th April 2018, 12:51 AM   #426872  /  #73
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I knew they had been, but last year Thingy thought they were close to working things out. But that's why we signed on diva from TR and nacho from Ratskep, 'cause they couldn't from MS.
Then from 451 it sounds like something sort of blew up at MS since then.
Nah, think there was a miscommunication then. Last year I didn't even approach them.
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Old 25th April 2018, 01:17 AM   #426896  /  #74
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Thanks just the same, No Lynch. Good to see you again.
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Ew 11:2 should be 9:2 or 11:3
9:2 is better ya

problem with 11:3 is that its an even number so town has to no lynch at some point
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Old 25th April 2018, 05:58 AM   #427008  /  #75
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