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Old 16th May 2017, 12:05 PM   #399923  /  #26
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Huge story - DPP tells Victorian Police it can charge Cardinal George Pell...

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Old 29th June 2017, 12:56 AM   #404237  /  #28
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Old 29th June 2017, 03:24 AM   #404248  /  #29
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Needs to happen. If he is innocent he does need to be exonerated.
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Old 30th June 2017, 10:22 AM   #404314  /  #32
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https://international.la-croix.com/n...orge-pell/5443

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Take the raw statistics. The Australian Government set up a royal commission – a top-level official inquiry with the power to force witnesses to testify and produce evidence. It found that between 1950 and 2010 a total of 4,444 people made complaints of child sexual abuse to 93 Catholic Church authorities concerning 1,880 perpetrators.

The average age of victims was 10.5 years for girls and 11.6 years for boys.

Some 7 per cent of Australian priests working during those years had complaints made against them to the Church. In Melbourne Archdiocese, the number was 8.1 percent. Among the teaching order known as the Irish Christian Brothers, it was 20 percent.

Child sexual abuse is not an evil unique to Australia but elsewhere the accepted figure is 2 percent.
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Old 4th July 2017, 07:58 AM   #404442  /  #33
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Kluwgant was appointed after a global recruitment process, and came to the school with a “wealth of experience in leadership and education”.

Kluwgant resigned from his position as president of the Organisation of Rabbis of Australasia following his appearance at the royal commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse in February 2015.

The hearing was examining the failures of Jewish Yeshivah centres in New South Wales and Victoria to adequately respond to allegations of child sexual abuse.

During the hearing it was revealed Kluwgant had a sent a message to the editor of the Australian Jewish News while watching Zephaniah Waks – the father of abuse victim Manny Waks – testify that his family was ostracised and targeted by religious leaders after they went public with allegations.

“Zephaniah is killing us,” he said in the message. “Zephaniah is attacking Chabad. He is a lunatic on the fringe, guilty of neglect of his own children. Where was he when all this was happening?”

Three days later Kluwgant resigned.

He also stepped down from other roles including Victoria police chaplain, and member of the Victoria police multifaith council.

A former principal of the school, Malka Leifer, fled to Israel in 2008 and is avoiding extradition. Leifer was wanted by Victorian police on more than 70 child sex charges.

In 2015 a judge awarded $1.27m to a woman for sexual abuse she suffered at the school. The court heard the woman was abused at the school, at a camp, and at her home by Leifer. It also heard the school arranged for Leifer to be flown out of the country within hours of learning the woman and a number of others had made allegations against her, the ABC reported at the time.
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Old 7th July 2017, 02:10 AM   #404628  /  #34
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Old 22nd November 2017, 05:50 AM   #414383  /  #35
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another Catholic Church cover-up in progress http://junkee.com/adelaide-catholic-...-statue/136254



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An Adelaide Catholic school has had to scramble to cover up a recently-erected statue of St. Dominic handing a loaf of bread to a child, on account of, uh, well… just look at it for yourself.
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Old 22nd November 2017, 09:10 AM   #414386  /  #36
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Old 16th December 2017, 05:37 AM   #415601  /  #37
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The commission picked over the failings of the Scouts, the YMCA, the Salvation Army, children’s homes for Aboriginal kids, the notorious Parramatta Training School for Girls, Swimming Australia, the ultra Orthodox Jewish Yeshiva sect, a Yoga ashram, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, performing arts centres, the military and a number of the most expensive private schools in the nation.

But its principal focus became the failings of the Catholic church. There is no arguing with the figures. Most survivors attending the 8,000 private sessions with commissioners reported abuse in faith-based institutions. Two-thirds of those were abused in Catholic institutions.
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Old 8th March 2018, 12:03 AM   #421623  /  #38
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Old 8th March 2018, 02:17 AM   #421631  /  #39
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Sounds great as long as the judge and lawyers have no objections.

Ugly-as-fuck dog though. Don't they have any decent sled teams to draw from?

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Old 15th March 2018, 11:40 AM   #421985  /  #41
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Old 26th February 2019, 06:30 AM   #444987  /  #42
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"... the highest-ranking official of the Catholic Church anywhere in the world who has been caught abusing children."





https://www.theguardian.com/australi...n-convicted-of
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Old 26th February 2019, 05:45 PM   #445000  /  #43
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I wonder, if another religious group was abusing their children, if we will be held accountable for being so reluctant to be critical of them.

We are getting a bit of ground in criticizing the Catholics, how about all the others? Can we just start mocking the religious openly? Or only if they are a certain demographic?
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Old 27th February 2019, 02:30 AM   #445008  /  #44
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Old 28th February 2019, 06:14 AM   #445031  /  #45
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He'll get off on appeal.
I hope the lawyers who seem to be saying this are wrong .
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Old 28th February 2019, 06:17 AM   #445032  /  #46
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The year after he left the choir, The Choirboy got into drugs. In a big way. While at age 13 he had sung Handel’s Messiah, clad in a choirboy’s crimson and white robes, eyes cast up to heaven, by his 14th year he was already dabbling in heroin.
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Old 28th February 2019, 06:28 AM   #445033  /  #47
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https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ns-expert-says

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Cardinal George Pells appeal against his convictions of sexually assaulting and penetrating choirboys is likely to be granted and has a good chance of succeeding on the basis of unreasonableness, according to legal experts and defence lawyers.
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Old 28th February 2019, 06:58 AM   #445034  /  #48
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yeah

but the stain will remain. he won't ever be exonerated.

these aren't the only allegations made against him

and even without the personal allegations, he knew and ignored the truth about some truly barbarous individuals.

like Gerald Ridsdale, who shared a house with Pell for a time during his 30+-year reign of terror raping and abusing boys and girls in western Victoria.

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In 2006, he pleaded guilty to 35 charges relating to indecent assault against 10 boys between 1970 and 1987 in Baccus Marsh, Ballarat, Warrnambool, Edenhope, Horsham and Mortlake.[2] He was sentenced to 13 years' imprisonment with a minimum of seven years, three years of which was ordered to be served concurrently (the remainder of the previous sentence).[9] A few of his victims criticised the leniency of the sentence.[9]

In 2013, weeks before Ridsdale was eligible for parole, Ridsdale was charged with an additional 84 offences against 14 victims committed between 1961 and 1981.[10] He pleaded guilty to 29 counts (27 of indecent assault, one count of buggery and one count of carnal knowledge of a girl under the age of 16) committed between 1960 and 1980 and asked for a further 27 counts to be taken into consideration at sentencing.[11] After pleading guilty to the above charges, including raping and abusing children as young as four, Ridsdale was sentenced to eight years in prison in April 2014, with the judge ordering he be eligible for parole in April 2019.[12] These charges brought the number of Ridsdale's confirmed victims to 54.[13]

On 13 April 2017, Ridsdale pleaded guilty to a further 20 offences against 10 boys and a girl. These offences were committed between 1961 and 1988 in western Victoria and are expected to extend his release date further into the future.[14] On 15 August 2017, Ridsdale pleaded guilty to 23 charges, including two counts of rape and one of buggery, for abusing 12 children, 11 boys and 1 girl aged 6 to 13, between 1962 and 1988 in Ballarat and the surrounding area.[15][16] Ridsdale was sentenced to 11 years imprisonment, with five years cumulative. One of the victims told the court she was abused numerous times by Ridsdale, including being assaulted on the altar of a Ballarat church, while another victim said that Ridsdale abused him hundreds of times.[17] The number of known victims of Ridsdale is now 65.[1]
Pell was a character witness at Ridsdale's trial


or Father Peter Searson

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In his evidence Pell said he believed the list, which included reports Searson had abused animals in front of children and was using childrens toilets, did not contain enough information for him to act.

Searson died in 2009 without facing charges. The commission has previously heard he abused children in parishes and schools across three districts over more than a decade, and displayed strange behaviours such as animal cruelty and carrying a gun to school.
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Old 28th February 2019, 07:54 AM   #445036  /  #49
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I don't know what's possible with mouthpieces like Bolt and Devine backing him in.
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Old 28th February 2019, 08:12 AM   #445037  /  #50
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interestingly Ray Hadley isn't https://www.theguardian.com/australi...e-to-survivors ... stopped clock etc.

also https://www.theguardian.com/australi...as-vanilla-sex
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